NBC/SurveyMonkey national poll: Clinton 48% Trump 45%
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« on: May 17, 2016, 05:50:52 AM »

NBC/SurveyMonkey national poll, conducted May 9-15:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/312804612/NBC-News-SurveyMonkey-Toplines-and-Methodology-5-9-5-15?secret_password=agyWh3Vh62bCRN4ztTac

Clinton 48%
Trump 45%

Sanders 53%
Trump 41%
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 06:46:53 AM »

Hillary has earned her 59% unfavorable rating.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 07:04:08 AM »

So, the GOP is starting to get in line and the Dems are still playing funny-buggers.

and jfern remains as mule-like as ever.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 09:38:46 AM »


And you have earned the ridicule and disdain of every poster in Atlas with a functioning brain.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 09:46:48 AM »

What? 41% think TRUMP will win the Democratic nomination? LOL. They meant Bernard?
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 10:18:28 AM »

BTW, I bet my house that TRUMP will not get 28% of Hispanics.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 10:40:35 AM »

Rally around nominee. Trump may wind up like Romney losing by 3 Million votes but who knows as long as Clinton maintains lead.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 12:21:11 PM »

It is a sad state of affairs when the democratic party establishment seems dead set on nominating the only person capable of losing a general election to Donald effing Trump
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 12:30:57 PM »

It is a sad state of affairs when the democratic party establishment seems dead set on nominating the only person capable of losing a general election to Donald effing Trump

It is a sad state of affairs when Republican voters put party loyalty above the nation's nuclear security.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 12:33:13 PM »

3rd terms are tough and deference was made towards Clinton because of Biden's loss. Clinton will handily defeat Trump
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2016, 12:55:03 PM »

BTW, I bet my house that TRUMP will not get 28% of Hispanics.
How nice is your house?

In the last 3 open elections, the Republicans got 30, 35 and 31% of the Hispanic vote. Romney (who was a terrible candidate -- worse than Trump IMHO), got 27% in the last cycle.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2016, 02:04:49 PM »

BTW, I bet my house that TRUMP will not get 28% of Hispanics.
How nice is your house?

In the last 3 open elections, the Republicans got 30, 35 and 31% of the Hispanic vote. Romney (who was a terrible candidate -- worse than Trump IMHO), got 27% in the last cycle.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

As opposed to TRUMP who is beloved among Hispanics.
Get out of here.
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2016, 12:37:51 AM »


And you have earned the ridicule and disdain of every poster in Atlas with a functioning brain.

Was jfern wrong with her unfavorables? No, so shut up. Also atlas is full of Establishment hacks that absolutely loath Sanders and can't adore Hillary enough (so I wouldn't take them quite seriously). So in essence they are the 41% in this poll.
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« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2016, 01:16:49 AM »

BTW, I bet my house that TRUMP will not get 28% of Hispanics.
How nice is your house?

In the last 3 open elections, the Republicans got 30, 35 and 31% of the Hispanic vote. Romney (who was a terrible candidate -- worse than Trump IMHO), got 27% in the last cycle.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/07/latino-voters-in-the-2012-election/

As opposed to TRUMP who is beloved among Hispanics.
Get out of here.

Well, at this point we've seen about 10 polls showing Clinton up by a 2012ish margin on the strength of her better-than-Obama numbers with white women, while Trump does a bit better than Romney among all minority groups.  It's time to start taking this possibility seriously, or else have a good explanation for why the most anti-Trump Hispanics simply aren't answering polls.

It would be interesting to compare how Obama did with minorities in polls conducted before the 2012 elections. IIRC, Obama didn't do as well in polls with Hispanics and Asians as he ended up doing according to the exit poll. I think polls may understate Hispanic and Asian support for Democrats, and is one of the reasons why Democrats outperform their polls in Nevada and other places in the west. The reason could be that polls are missing non-english speakers and they are more Democratic than english speaking Hispanics and Asians.
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« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2016, 01:53:49 AM »

Sbane is right, there is substantial underpolling with regards to minorities, particularly Hispanics and Asians.

That said, Trump getting 28% would not be unthinkable. Romney's self-deportation comments were considered to be anti-immigrant and he still got 27%.


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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2016, 02:02:55 AM »

That said, Trump getting 28% would not be unthinkable. Romney's self-deportation comments were considered to be anti-immigrant and he still got 27%.

Well, just a little bit of difference between advocating self-deportation, and calling them rapists, making a wall along the southern border your signature campaign policy and vowing to deport all the undocumented immigrants (aka possibly members of their family, friends, or people they know)
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2016, 03:55:12 AM »

Latino Decisions and other polling and advocacy outfits have found that TRUMP has 80-85% unfavorables among Hispanics.
Good luck matching Mittens' already pathetic performance with numbers like that.
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2016, 06:52:15 PM »

That said, Trump getting 28% would not be unthinkable. Romney's self-deportation comments were considered to be anti-immigrant and he still got 27%.

Well, just a little bit of difference between advocating self-deportation, and calling them rapists, making a wall along the southern border your signature campaign policy and vowing to deport all the undocumented immigrants (aka possibly members of their family, friends, or people they know)

Or supporting deporting child refugees back to Honduras where you supported the coup.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2016, 06:55:06 PM »

I'd bet Trump's support with Hispanics right now is about 20%, and some of the posts here about underpolling of non-English speakers is likely accurate.  Again, I think the margin will probably be between McCain '08 and Romney '12, so that seems to be consistent with it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2016, 11:08:39 PM »

Or supporting deporting child refugees back to Honduras where you supported the coup.

Yeah, that's definitely going to be the wedge issue for her Hispanic support Roll Eyes
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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2016, 02:26:19 AM »

That said, Trump getting 28% would not be unthinkable. Romney's self-deportation comments were considered to be anti-immigrant and he still got 27%.

Well, just a little bit of difference between advocating self-deportation, and calling them rapists, making a wall along the southern border your signature campaign policy and vowing to deport all the undocumented immigrants (aka possibly members of their family, friends, or people they know)

Romney came pretty close to all three. I know for a fact he once made a statement saying they were bringing crime.  He endorced the fence alonge the entire border, and called for deporting all illegals. He also got Tom Tancredo's endorsement in 2007, and thats all you need to know.

I don't know if it is because of his  denouncement of Trump or whatever, but people seem to forget just how hard Romney beat the dead horse on immigration to get to the right of McCain and Rudy in the primary.
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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2016, 08:54:56 AM »

Minority turnout will be far more important than the % that vote GOP.
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