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« on: May 17, 2016, 04:18:21 PM »

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HD20 - 34/48
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HD95 - 30/46
HD99 - 32/51
HD115 - 27/50


It's a shame IL has gone from having one of the best Governors to one of the worst. Another sad reminder that the People's Pat would be doing much better than this amateur.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2016, 11:09:59 PM »

How the hell was Pat Quinn one of the best governors?
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2016, 08:41:32 AM »

How the hell was Pat Quinn one of the best governors?

He wasn't. But Rauner isn't too...
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2016, 09:03:15 AM »

That guy is toast for 2018.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2016, 09:07:32 AM »


The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then
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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2016, 09:45:05 AM »


The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then

Well, IL is a deep blue state and Rauner just won because Quinn was damn unpopular in 2014.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2016, 10:50:38 AM »


The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then

Well, IL is a deep blue state and Rauner just won because Quinn was damn unpopular in 2014.

"Templates" are always bad. Illinois elects Republicans frequently enough to consider each situation separately. Massachusetts is even more blue, and that didn't prevent Baker not only from being elected, but being most popular governor in US (only Hogan is "on par", and again - Republican in deep blue state)
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2016, 12:29:39 PM »


The same was said about Quinn in 2010. But he won then

Well, IL is a deep blue state and Rauner just won because Quinn was damn unpopular in 2014.

Also, Brady in 2010 was more conservative, particularly on social issues, unlike Rauner who has been rather moderate socially.  I remember Judy Baar Topinka (RIP) saying that you had to be socially moderate to win statewide in IL if you're GOP.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2016, 12:56:43 PM »

Haha, nothing will make me happier than Bruce Rauner losing!

Revenge for the People's Pat!
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2016, 08:16:09 PM »

The People's Pat left his people in a very terrible situation, and it's comical to hear people from other states comment with blind partisan hackery on IL politics, not appreciating the mess this state is in.

EDIT: And what does Rauner get for literally trying to do ANYTHING differently to try to improve our shltty situation??  A boneheaded legislature blocking his every move and an electorate who yearns for the days of ... Pat Quinn, LOL.
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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2016, 09:06:26 PM »

How the hell was Pat Quinn one of the best governors?

He's not in prison, so that automatically makes him the best Illinois governor this century. Rauner hasn't been charged yet, but there's still plenty of time between now and his 2018 defeat.
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2016, 09:11:44 AM »

Haha, nothing will make me happier than Bruce Rauner losing!

Revenge for the People's Pat!

The People's Pat won't be back. If he really runs, I expect him to lose the primary.
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2016, 11:47:05 AM »

I'm not so sure that Rauner is DOA for 2018.  From what I've seen and heard, Madigan is being blamed for the budged impasse as much as he is.  If Rauner runs for reelection, he can run on this and attack Madigan as leading a "do-nothing" legislature, a la Truman 1948.  If he does that then his chances at reelection are very good.

In 2006, Jennifer Granholm did the same thing here in Michigan.  She recognized that more people blamed Bush for Michigan's sour economy than her, and she played it to her advantage, winning reelection handily.  I suspect that Rauner will win reelection in much the same way.


It's a shame IL has gone from having one of the best Governors to one of the worst. Another sad reminder that the People's Pat would be doing much better than this amateur.
Oh, yes.  High taxes and big spending did such great things for Illinois.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2016, 10:05:03 PM »

I don't think you can even call Rauner an underdog for reelection at this point (it's too early), but reelecting Rauner would mean the end of the Madigan cartel in Illinois and might even cause Madigan to retire.

Then again, I liked Pat Quinn a lot as governor. He inherited a huge mess and did, in my view, the best he could with the hand he was dealt.
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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2016, 12:47:45 AM »

FWIW, there are strong rumors of Dick Durbin being recruited to run against Rauner in 2018.
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 02:22:40 AM »

Doubt he'll do it. He'd be 74 upon inauguration.
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« Reply #16 on: May 24, 2016, 03:06:28 AM »

Doubt he'll do it. He'd be 74 upon inauguration.

If Strom Thurmond could last to nearly age 100 in office, 74 year old Durbin could go for two terms as Governor, easily, if he wants to stay in politics so badly.
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« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2016, 03:57:59 AM »

Doubt he'll do it. He'd be 74 upon inauguration.

All three candidates currently running for President will be 70+ in January. Age isn't really big obstacle to politicians seeking office.

Also, if Durbin is never going to be Majority/Minority Leader now that Schumer has taken the spot (And Schumer has given hints that he might not even allow Durbin to keep his Whip position, mentioning that Patty Murray could take the job), then he might as well cap of his political career with a run at Governor.
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« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2016, 06:58:15 AM »

All three candidates currently running for President will be 70+ in January.
Actually, Clinton won't turn 70 until October 2017.
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« Reply #19 on: May 24, 2016, 09:22:08 AM »

I think our first Lady should run. She would destroy Rauner by 65-35% or so.
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« Reply #20 on: May 24, 2016, 09:30:27 AM »

I think our first Lady should run. She would destroy Rauner by 65-35% or so.

I heard the Obama family is staying in DC until Malia and Natasha graduate high school.
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« Reply #21 on: May 24, 2016, 09:34:56 AM »

I think our first Lady should run. She would destroy Rauner by 65-35% or so.

I heard the Obama family is staying in DC until Malia and Natasha graduate high school.

Yep, she won't run. She was considered as a possible candidate for the IL-Senate this year, but declined last year.
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« Reply #22 on: May 24, 2016, 12:35:07 PM »

Durbin would be far from guaranteed to beat Rauner.

Durbin would destroy Rauner. Downstaters love him. Cook and the suburbs would come easy. It wouldn't be anywhere close.
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« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2016, 12:53:49 PM »

Durbin would be far from guaranteed to beat Rauner.

Durbin would destroy Rauner. Downstaters love him. Cook and the suburbs would come easy. It wouldn't be anywhere close.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Illinois,_2014

Rauner /=/ Oberweis.

Durbin is one of the few IL Dems that I actually like, FWIW.
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« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2016, 12:58:06 PM »

Are you implying that Oberweis is a better candidate than Rauner? This guy didn't even run a campaign and still won downstate/the collar counties.

Oberweis was basically generic R. Rauner could be worse than that depending on how the next two years go.
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