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« on: May 18, 2016, 09:51:53 PM »

Where would they be today, and how would politics overall be different?

Namely:
Crist
Castle
Bennett
Simmons
Coakley
Buck
Angle
Specter
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« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2016, 10:14:09 PM »

Crist - Re-elected in 2014, governs as an average Republican

Castle - Probable toss-up in 2014, wave probably lets him hang on.

Bennett - Would continue to be a rather anonymous Senator until he died.

Simmons - Probably only does 3-5 points better than McMahon.

Coakley - Senate lifer. Savior of Obamacare.

Buck - Toss-Up for re-election this year.

Angle - Would probably be in the same boat Ron Johnson is for 2016.

Specter - Probably loses in 2010. Dies shortly thereafter.
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2016, 10:42:27 PM »

Crist - Re-elected in 2014, governs as an average Republican

He'd be up this year. Probably would be another Collins/Murkowski so would probably be favored.
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2016, 11:05:24 PM »

Crist - Re-elected in 2014, governs as an average Republican

He'd be up this year. Probably would be another Collins/Murkowski so would probably be favored.
That would also mean no Senator Marco Rubio, thus drastically altering the calculus and dynamics of the 2016 GOP primaries.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2016, 11:09:54 PM »

Crist - Re-elected in 2014, governs as an average Republican

He'd be up this year. Probably would be another Collins/Murkowski so would probably be favored.

Had a brain fart and thought he ran for Governor that year.

Yeah he'd probably be about where Burr or Blunt is right now.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 12:23:42 AM »

Specter would still be dead. Sestak would run against Toomey in a special election and most likely win.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2016, 12:36:45 AM »

Crist: Would still be a Republican, would be running for reelection to the Senate. Perhaps would have a credible primary challenger, but would likely be favored in both the primary and general election.
Castle: Runs for reelection (2014) and wins rather comfortably, the wave allows him to win and democrats don't recruit anyone too impressive.
Bennett: Senate lifer if he wins. Would be safe in a general election, but since he lost in 2010 due to the assumption he'd win, perhaps a conservative primary challenger pulls off an upset in 2016 against him.
Simmons: If he won the 2010 primary, he's still largely forgotten today because he still would've lost to Blumenthal in 2010 (would've done a little better than McMahon, but not by much). If he somehow miraculously won the general in 2010, he'd be in a similar position as Mark Kirk this year; a huge under-dog. Dems would make sure to avoid running Malloy against him, perhaps Esty or Himes would be his main challenger and one of them would likely win the seat.
Coakley: Senate Lifer. She'd have this seat for as long as she wanted it.
Buck: Tossup for reelection this year, probably would lose by a small margin.
Angle: Similar position to Ron Johnson this year; could maybe still win but likely would lose. Lean D race.
Specter: If he won the 2010 primary, I think he would have narrowly won against Toomey. His replacement in the special election following his death (either a democrat or Toomey) would be favored to win the election to a full term
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2016, 03:46:49 AM »
« Edited: May 19, 2016, 03:50:01 AM by FreePhoenix »

Specter would still be dead. Sestak would run against Toomey in a special election and most likely win.

Time Toomey was Underestimated #284747. If he'd still died, the special would probably have been in 2014 considering how closely Specter died to Election Day. The wave would have at least carried him through the 2014 special.
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« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2016, 03:49:58 AM »

Specter would still be dead. Sestak would run against Toomey in a special election and most likely win.

>Time Toomey was Underestimated #284747

>Time Sestak was Overrated #384747
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« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2016, 06:15:47 AM »

Crist - He'd be a standard issue establishment Republican, but might lose the primary
Castle - Safe in the general, idk about the primary
Bennett - Benett is dead, so...
Simmons - Would've still lost
Coakley - Safe lifer
Buck - Probably loses re-election
Angle - goner in the general
Specter - loses the general badly (I assume he'd have much worse than Sestak in 2010)
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« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2016, 09:27:33 AM »

Crist - He'd be a standard issue establishment Republican, but might lose the primary
Castle - Safe in the general, idk about the primary
Bennett - Benett is dead, so...
Simmons - Would've still lost
Coakley - Safe lifer
Buck - Probably loses re-election
Angle - goner in the general
Specter - loses the general badly (I assume he'd have much worse than Sestak in 2010)

I didn't realize Bennett passed away
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2016, 01:55:12 PM »

Bennett's death would probably mean either Mia Love or Jon Huntsman or someone of the kind gets appointed to the Senate. I don't see a successful primary challenge to Huntsman considering how good his organization was there in 2004/2008.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2016, 02:21:52 PM »

Bennett's death would probably mean either Mia Love or Jon Huntsman or someone of the kind gets appointed to the Senate. I don't see a successful primary challenge to Huntsman considering how good his organization was there in 2004/2008.
Since Gov. Herbert succeeded Huntsman, I can easily see him being appointed to the seat. Huntsman would then keep the seat as long as he wanted, probably, since he's extremely popular in Utah.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2016, 02:24:50 PM »

Specter would still be dead. Sestak would run against Toomey in a special election and most likely win.

>Time Toomey was Underestimated #284747

>Time Sestak was Overrated #384747
I guess it depends on how you view 2014, but Sestak did get 49% of the vote in 2010 with very little structural support.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2016, 03:28:38 PM »

Bennett's death would probably mean either Mia Love or Jon Huntsman or someone of the kind gets appointed to the Senate. I don't see a successful primary challenge to Huntsman considering how good his organization was there in 2004/2008.
Since Gov. Herbert succeeded Huntsman, I can easily see him being appointed to the seat. Huntsman would then keep the seat as long as he wanted, probably, since he's extremely popular in Utah.
Herbert was actually Huntsman's Lieutenant Governor.

Speaking of Western Senators because of this, I think Brian Sandoval, Joe Heck, or Cresent Hardy would primary challenge Angle.
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« Reply #15 on: May 24, 2016, 02:46:41 PM »

Crist would have run for President in 2012 as the Huntsman niche candidate. He'd probably do worse and focus on his 2016 reelection.
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