NYT/CBS-National: Clinton +6

[Angrie]

Favorability:
Clinton: 31-52 (-21)
Trump: 26-55 (-29)

Her numbers will improve.

Suppose they improve to 35% favorable. Then she has 35% favorable numbers. The only thing saving her is that Trump is even worse.

[Angrie]

Also, if you toss out the Fox and Rasmussen polls from the pollster aggregate then her lead jumps from 2.7 to 7.7 points.

So you're telling me that if you selectively ignore parts of the data, you can arrive at whatever result you want to arrive at. Good to know.

[Angrie]

Yeah, if you ignore pollsters who engage in propaganda, not polling, that's what happens.

Sometimes what seems to be "propaganda" can turn out to be more accurate than what seems like "good polling." That's what happened in 2010 and 2014, IIRC. True, those were midterm years and this is a presidential year... but we have already seen plenty of major polling goofs in the primaries.

I agree that it is more likely that the other pollsters are right, but there is nonetheless a non-negligible chance that they are wrong and Fox/Rasmussen are right. To pretend otherwise is to dabble in dangerous delusion...