NYT/CBS-National: Clinton +6

[Landslide Lyndon]

Favorability:
Clinton: 31-52 (-21)
Trump: 26-55 (-29)

Her numbers will improve.

No. They won't. Republicans uniformly hate Hillary!

No shiite Sherlock.

Anyway, Alan Abramowitz made an interesting observation.
Among the GE polls between Clinton and TRUMP, Fox and Rasmussen found TRUMP ahead or tied 44% of the time.
Among the GE polls between Clinton and TRUMP done by all the other polling outfits they found TRUMP ahead or tied 7% of the time.

Also, if you toss out the Fox and Rasmussen polls from the pollster aggregate then her lead jumps from 2.7 to 7.7 points.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Also, if you toss out the Fox and Rasmussen polls from the pollster aggregate then her lead jumps from 2.7 to 7.7 points.

So you're telling me that if you selectively ignore parts of the data, you can arrive at whatever result you want to arrive at. Good to know.

Yeah, if you ignore pollsters who engage in propaganda, not polling, that's what happens.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Yeah, if you ignore pollsters who engage in propaganda, not polling, that's what happens.

Sometimes what seems to be "propaganda" can turn out to be more accurate than what seems like "good polling." That's what happened in 2010 and 2014, IIRC. True, those were midterm years and this is a presidential year... but we have already seen plenty of major polling goofs in the primaries.

I agree that it is more likely that the other pollsters are right, but there is nonetheless a non-negligible chance that they are wrong and Fox/Rasmussen are right. To pretend otherwise is to dabble in dangerous delusion...

I think we have enough evidence, especially from Rasmussen, to safely ignore them.
There is a reason why their output has fallen dramatically after 2012.