In which country is there more respect for freedom? USA or Norway?

[TDAS04]

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[Goldwater]

All in all, I still prefer the policies of the U.S. overall.

[TDAS04]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

[NeverAgain]

Norway, both economically and socially. Doesn't mean I'd like to live there though.

[RINO Tom]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

[°Leprechaun]

Is Norway one of those socialist countries where they have universal healthcare and other so called "unAmerican" things? Is it a country that doesn't start pre-emptive wars against countries like Iraq?
Just wondering. Not that that has anything to do with your question. It's just that some Clinton supporters keep saying things like we don't want to be like those socialist European countries and support a "commie" like Bernie Sanders.

[dead0man]

For what, 78% of people they both are going to be the exact same.  For whatevers left, it's going to depend on the person (and where at in the two countries you happen to be).  I don't see any easy math here.  Certainly the freest places would be in the US, especially if your concerns are drug freedoms, abortion access and homosexual acceptance.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

[Vosem]

Among government policies, probably America, though among the actual individual citizens I'm less confident.

[RINO Tom]

Among government policies, probably America, though among the actual individual citizens I'm less confident.

Very fair answer.

[RightBehind]

We're very fortunate to have freedoms not every country enjoys, but my biggest concern with the USA and freedom is the different totalitarian regimes we have supported in history, particularly after World War II.

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Lol this thread.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

I've heard very negative things about social services in Norway, particularly in regards to children being taken away from parents very easily. There was a fairly large story about a Czech woman who was a victim of this.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Hard to say.  Norway forces people to serve in their military, so that scrapes quite a few points off their "freedom scale."  Gun rights are also far more respected in the US than in Norway... but then you get less folks getting shot in the streets every year.  On the other hand, police in Norway almost never use lethal force and the last time they actually killed someone was 2006.

As for free speech, that's also one of few areas where the US can legitimately claim to be "better than everyone."

I guess I'd give the slight edge to the US on this one, mainly because of the draft.

Is Norway one of those socialist countries where they have universal healthcare and other so called "unAmerican" things? Is it a country that doesn't start pre-emptive wars against countries like Iraq?
Just wondering. Not that that has anything to do with your question. It's just that some Clinton supporters keep saying things like we don't want to be like those socialist European countries and support a "commie" like Bernie Sanders.

I mean, Norway's a NATO country, so they kind of just go along with the rest of the Western powers on the foreign policy front.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Is Norway one of those socialist countries where they have universal healthcare and other so called "unAmerican" things? Is it a country that doesn't start pre-emptive wars against countries like Iraq?
Just wondering. Not that that has anything to do with your question. It's just that some Clinton supporters keep saying things like we don't want to be like those socialist European countries and support a "commie" like Bernie Sanders.

Norway isn't socialist. It's a business friendly economically liberal capitalist state with a strong welfare state.

[Penelope]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?

[RINO Tom]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?

How could you possibly think that either my comment has to be sarcastic or I have to believe that allowing verbal Holocaust denial constitutes the "height of freedom"?!  We were directly talking about free speech, and it is quite literally undeniable that the US has more free speech than European countries.  Good (peaceful protest), bad (hateful rhetoric), whatever - free speech is a principle, not something you can pick and choose when you like it.

(Whomever is going to bring up the example of someone yelling "fire" in a movie theatre, save your breath.)

[Goldwater]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?

Free speech is indeed very important.

[OSR stands with Israel]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?

Free speech is indeed very important.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

The answer is obvious.  It's the one where being gay is not an issue, where they don't lock people up for 25 years for simple drug possession, where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are truly understood, where women's reproductive rights can be taken for granted, etc.

Freedom isn't all about lasseiz-faire economics and guns.

Literally every single European country has worse freedom of speech than us.  We don't punish people for having terrible opinions, like Holocaust denial.

Is this sarcasm or do you really think the height of freedom is being able to say "the holocaust never happened"?

If you want to censor speech that's offensive, you don't support free speech at all.

[RaphaelDLG]

We suck compared to Europe in many, many ways, but our bill of rights has developed into something pretty awesome

[Wake Me Up When The Hard Border Ends]

USA all the way (likes the Bill of Rights)

[Sir Mohamed]

USA!

[ingemann]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

[Ljube]

USA. Norway is virtually a prison.