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« on: May 19, 2016, 10:23:31 PM »
« edited: May 20, 2016, 10:47:40 AM by RightBehind »
Who do you think is the most evil person in history that often isn't classified in such a category?

I'd have to go with D.F. Malan. He had a very oppressive regime, and I would argue he was the worst of all the Apartheid leaders, which is really saying something.
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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2016, 10:31:21 PM »
« Edited: May 19, 2016, 10:33:35 PM by White Light »
Yahya Khan

I'm sure Xahar will be at least somewhat in agreement.

Also Leopold II of Belgium doesn't get a whole lot of attention in comparison to his death toll. You will often see him on "great villains of history" lists, but usually just as an afterthought.
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« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2016, 10:32:01 PM »
Bohdan Khmelnytsky, who attempted to wipe the Jews out from the Ukraine several centuries before Hitler did, at least counts as a possibility.
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« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2016, 10:34:22 PM »
Quote from: White Light on May 19, 2016, 10:31:21 PM
Yahya Khan

I'm sure Xahar will be at least somewhat in agreement.
Definitely. It's easy to point out Chairman Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, or the Kims, but there were and are some seriously awful dictators out there. I just wrote a 10 page paper for my final in Comparative Politics on Eritrea's regime.
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« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2016, 10:37:37 PM »
Ceaucescu has to be up there too.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2016, 10:40:37 PM »
Also Fernando Romeo Lucas García. He was probably the worst dictator in the Western Hemisphere in the 20th century, yet virtually no one knows who he was.
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« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2016, 10:48:02 PM »
In terms of serial killers, Gerald Schaeffer is a particularly sadistic killer who plagued the Treasure Coast and Fort Lauderdale in the 1970s.

Christopher Wilder was another infamous serial killer who isn't well known. He lived in Boynton, where I lived until I went to college. He lived up the street from my eighth grade teacher in the 1970s or early 80s. My dad worked on the construction of his home briefly, but doesn't remember meeting him.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2016, 11:06:06 PM »
Quote from: White Light on May 19, 2016, 10:40:37 PM
Also Fernando Romeo Lucas García. He was probably the worst dictator in the Western Hemisphere in the 20th century, yet virtually no one knows who he was.

I imagine a number of Guatemala's military rulers would end up here. I haven't heard of Ríos Montt until he was actually put on trial. But special "award" should go to early ones.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2016, 12:02:43 AM »
Magda Goebbels was a truly evil person who doesn't seem to have any kind of mental impairment or childhood trauma as an excuse. There were a lot of crazy people in the Third Reich, but the scary thing about her was that she doesn't seem to have been. Just cool and calculating.

Hong Xiuquan - dude fails a civil service exam, declares himself the brother of Jesus, 20-30 million people die as a result.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 12:06:24 AM »
This dude.
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2016, 12:42:10 AM »
Ganghis Khan and Talaat Pasha aren't exactly household names.
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2016, 01:33:57 AM »
Quote from: ascott on May 20, 2016, 12:42:10 AM
Ganghis Khan and Talaat Pasha aren't exactly household names.

Ghengis Khan isn't a household name? Huh
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2016, 03:46:13 AM »
Atheist2006 is surely a contender for this, no?
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2016, 04:38:18 AM »

I was reading his Wiki article not too long ago, and this in particular stuck with me:

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Just let that sink in for a moment.
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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2016, 05:12:11 AM »
Quote from: RightBehind on May 19, 2016, 10:23:31 PM
Who do you think is the most evil person in history that often isn't classified in such a category?

I'd have to go with D.F. Malan. He had a very oppressive regime, and I would argue he was the worst of all the Apartheid leadera, which is really saying something.

Malan was a nasty piece of work, but H.F. Verwoed's handling of the Border War and the Bantustans was the worst atrocity committed in South Africa since decolonization. South Africa's history is just one bad thing after another.
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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2016, 05:35:04 AM »
Quote from: ascott on May 20, 2016, 12:42:10 AM
Ganghis Khan and Talaat Pasha aren't exactly household names.

Genghis Khan is a household name, but the specifics of what he did aren't as widely known as Hitler and Stalin, for example.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2016, 05:58:13 AM »
Quote from: Badger on May 20, 2016, 01:33:57 AM
Quote from: ascott on May 20, 2016, 12:42:10 AM
Ganghis Khan and Talaat Pasha aren't exactly household names.

Ghengis Khan isn't a household name? Huh
Yes, he is.  Not sure what ascott was thinking there.
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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2016, 06:38:43 AM »
Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on May 19, 2016, 10:34:22 PM
Definitely. It's easy to point out Chairman Mao...
Name one thing he did that was intentionally bad for the people.
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« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2016, 06:40:20 AM »
William the Conquerer, Papa Doc and Franco.
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« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2016, 06:41:21 AM »
Quote from: dax00, the extremely technical and judicious on May 20, 2016, 06:38:43 AM
Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on May 19, 2016, 10:34:22 PM
Definitely. It's easy to point out Chairman Mao...
Name one thing he did that was intentionally bad for the people.

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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2016, 06:44:25 AM »
Pol Pot and basically everyone of the Khmer Rouge deserve to be as far up on that list as anyone - I'm not sure their relative death toll of freaking 25% of the population has ever been beaten.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2016, 09:59:44 AM »
Mao. He was equal to Hitler and Stalin.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2016, 10:50:07 AM »
Quote from: Joe Republic on May 20, 2016, 04:38:18 AM

I was reading his Wiki article not too long ago, and this in particular stuck with me:

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Just let that sink in for a moment.

That was one of many terrible things he did.
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2016, 12:11:42 PM »
So many people assert that Mao was a bad guy, yet they can't name one malicious act on his part. Making a few uninformed decisions is far from evil. Jeez.
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2016, 01:14:16 PM »
Quote from: dax00, the extremely technical and judicious on May 20, 2016, 12:11:42 PM
So many people assert that Mao was a bad guy, yet they can't name one malicious act on his part. Making a few uninformed decisions is far from evil. Jeez.

The Cultural Revolution was a objectively vile thing, it does not fall under "making a few uninformed decisions" in any reasonable definition.
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