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Author Topic: Is Hillary really in trouble?  (Read 3292 times)
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Figs
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« on: May 23, 2016, 09:36:24 AM »

We must remember expectations were always high. Hillary has been considered an prohibitive favorite for a long time and I remember some of our posters claiming she'll do as well in the primaries as Chuck Schumer in his NY Senate races.

So, even though she's winning against Sanders by a healthy margin, the challenge makes her look weak.

That's one way of characterizing things. But once again, please note the following.

The list of people that Donald Trump has defeated in order to secure the Republican nomination:

Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Chris Christie
Ted Cruz
Carly Fiorina
Jim Gilmore
Lindsey Graham
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal
John Kasich
George Pataki
Rand Paul
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Rick Santorum
Scott Walker

The list of people that Hillary Clinton is trying to defeat in order to secure the Democratic nomination:

Bernie Sanders

The challenge isn't what's making her look weak, it's the starting point of this election cycle and the nature of the challenger, that's what's making her look weak.

Part of what made that list of people easier to defeat was their running simultaneously. Trump didn't defeat them in a series of one-on-one matchups.
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Slander and/or Libel
Figs
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Posts: 2,338


Political Matrix
E: -6.32, S: -7.83

« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2016, 10:50:31 AM »

Biden is such a competent politician that he dropped out in 1988 due to plagiarism, couldn't crack 1% in 2008 and dropped out after raising about $20, and didn't run this time because he knew Hillary would clean his clock, which he outright admitted.

If not for plagiarism charge, Biden would almost certainly make a very strong candidate. I can't see how his 2008 performance is relevant. Whether he could or could not win this time, as incumbent Vice President he would be in much stronger position. He'd probably be the only viable "establishment" option other than Hillary and, frankly, you and other Hillary supporters should be grateful to him, for he made it much easier (not only by not running, but also by waiting for the very last moment to declare he's out).

Amy Kloubachar
Sherrod Brown
Mark Warner
Tim Kaine
Evan Bayh
Jeff Merkley
Ron Wyden
Debbie Stabenow
Ed Rendell
Steve Beshear
Jack Reed
Sheldon Whitehouse

The Democrats don't have a lack of talent.  Is there no one in this list that wouldn't be a better candidate than Hillary Clinton?

Evan Bayh. Seriously? You're putting Evan Bayh on this list?
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