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« on: May 21, 2016, 02:51:07 PM »

Trump has tweeted this out:

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What does this portend for the General Election? Hillary Clinton has attacked Trump as being "Dangerous Donald." This is a clear prelude to running Daisy ads. It is clear that Hillary plans to argue that Trump is too dangerous, reckless, and unpredictable to be Commander in Chief.

Meanwhile, so far Trump has mostly focused on attacking Hillary as "Crooked Hillary." It is clear that Trump is going to argue that Clinton is corrupt, in addition to attacking her handling of Bill's extramarital affairs.

But Trump knows what is coming from Hillary - this "dangerous" framing. So, this explicit argument that Hillary is "dangerous" is a new line of attack from Trump, and a response to what is coming from Hillary. I think we are probably going to see more of this from Trump. He is going to adopt a tripartite attack, trying to argue that Hillary is:

1) Crooked.
2) Dangerous.
3) Anti-women.

Meanwhile, Hillary is going to be arguing the same points 2 and 3, but also that Trump is anti-minority.

1) Anti-Minority.
2) Dangerous.
3) Anti-Women.

What say you?
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2016, 02:55:58 PM »

TRUUUUUUUUUUUUMP is so smart. Can't wait for the debates.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2016, 02:59:19 PM »

I don't understand the question the poll asks
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 03:00:21 PM »

I don't understand the question the poll asks
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 03:22:21 PM »

How about adding Rapist Trump to the poll?
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2016, 03:37:14 PM »

Alliterative nicknames are better.
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 03:40:20 PM »

Alliterative nicknames are better.

Rapist Ralph (Wiggum Trump)
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2016, 03:58:10 PM »

Yes.

Donald Trump arguments against Hillary Clinton:

1) Crooked.
2) Dangerous.
3) Anti-women.

Hillary Clinton arguments against Donald Trump:

1) Anti-Minority.
2) Dangerous.
3) Anti-Women.

The mud will be flying...
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2016, 04:06:49 PM »

How about adding Rapist Trump to the poll?

Is there a way to do that? I tried to click on modify but that doesn't seem to be an option.
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2016, 04:08:12 PM »


Which of the puerile attacks you like, or think will have an impact.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2016, 04:18:55 PM »

Yes.

Donald Trump arguments against Hillary Clinton:

1) Crooked.
2) Dangerous.
3) Anti-women.

Hillary Clinton arguments against Donald Trump:

1) Anti-Minority.
2) Dangerous.
3) Anti-Women.

The mud will be flying...

I missed WrestleMania this year, so the campaign will make up for that.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2016, 05:39:49 PM »

Clinton needs to hammer home TrumpMiller's many deep flaws, not his politics. Make sure that everyone in America knows he's a pathological liar, concerned only with himself, and has a long history of making bad decisions.


Forget "Dangerous Donald".  What the Clinton campaign wants everyone repeating is Terrible Treacherous Trump, who continually makes mistakes, then lies about it while stabbing his partners in the back to make a buck for himself.

While she does need to make sure that his previous statements, positions, and actions stick to him like stinky glue, her campaign shouldn't make them the core of their anti-Trump position. (They can use his attempts to redefine himself against him. Every time he contradicts himself, he's just proving that he's a liar. A "there you go again" sort of attack, but sustained over months.

Trying to win against him on politics as usual is a game for suckers. It's how he wants to spend the next six months. What Trump doesn't want to be doing is spending the rest of the election trying to convince people that he's not just a con-artist with an ego bigger than his hair.
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2016, 05:50:34 PM »

I have a mate, Dangerous Dave, who handles snakes.

He's not going to be thrilled about this development.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2016, 09:55:01 PM »

"Dumbass Donald" is probably more appropriate. I would absolutely swoon if Hillary ever uttered that combination of words.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2016, 11:08:45 PM »

"Dumbass Donald" is probably more appropriate. I would absolutely swoon if Hillary ever uttered that combination of words.
Yeah, that might even sway me to vote Hillary.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2016, 11:16:56 PM »

Hillary's Syria policy is pretty scary.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2016, 11:50:14 PM »

Corruption  and lack of ethics is the worst trait anyone can posses, especially a public figure
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« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2016, 12:21:42 AM »

How is he gonna pull off portraying her as anti-woman? By pointing out that she was angry at the women her husband slept with? Oh yeah, that's gonna convince lots of suburban independent women; how dare she be critical of her man's mistresses!

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2016, 12:27:58 AM »

Corruption  and lack of ethics is the worst trait anyone can posses, especially a public figure

We agree with you.
Thus the lack of faith and huge disapproval ratings for trump.
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« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2016, 04:08:21 AM »

This is the one advantage with Trump. OTher candidates a single gaffe would take them down. But Trump has so many, and Hillary has so many, that the waters will be too muddied for any kind of LBJ Daisy Redux to break through.
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2016, 07:31:27 AM »

This is the one advantage with Trump. OTher candidates a single gaffe would take them down. But Trump has so many, and Hillary has so many, that the waters will be too muddied for any kind of LBJ Daisy Redux to break through.

And it's pretty sad as the one mainstream candidate I would've voted for back in 2004 got ousted because of a yell.
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2016, 07:34:30 AM »

I don't know that "dangerous" is a moniker that will dissuade voters. In 1980 Reagan was portrayed as dangerous to the point of being called a "mad bomber" who would get us into WW3. There was no question that Reagan spoke in very strong, black and white terms on some questions of foreign policy during the campaign. The media liked the diplomatic language of John Anderson, but the voters liked what Reagan said.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2016, 07:45:20 AM »

Trump has tweeted this out:

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He has a point.  Can we trust someone who advocated military intervention in Libya?  I mean, just look at this quote about Libya from 2011:

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Seems pretty reckless, no?

Oh wait, Trump said that.  Just like he supported invading Iraq.  Never mind then.  Tongue
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2016, 08:06:18 AM »

Trump has tweeted this out:

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He has a point.  Can we trust someone who advocated military intervention in Libya?  I mean, just look at this quote about Libya from 2011:

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Seems pretty reckless, no?

Oh wait, Trump said that.  Just like he supported invading Iraq.  Never mind then.  Tongue


LOL! Mr. Morden, your attempts to discredit Trump are becoming pathetic. It's all product of your irrational hatred for the guy. Based on nothing but your dislike of his style.
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2016, 08:31:14 AM »

Clinton needs to hammer home TrumpMiller's many deep flaws, not his politics. Make sure that everyone in America knows he's a pathological liar, concerned only with himself, and has a long history of making bad decisions.


Forget "Dangerous Donald".  What the Clinton campaign wants everyone repeating is Terrible Treacherous Trump, who continually makes mistakes, then lies about it while stabbing his partners in the back to make a buck for himself.

While she does need to make sure that his previous statements, positions, and actions stick to him like stinky glue, her campaign shouldn't make them the core of their anti-Trump position. (They can use his attempts to redefine himself against him. Every time he contradicts himself, he's just proving that he's a liar. A "there you go again" sort of attack, but sustained over months.

Trying to win against him on politics as usual is a game for suckers. It's how he wants to spend the next six months. What Trump doesn't want to be doing is spending the rest of the election trying to convince people that he's not just a con-artist with an ego bigger than his hair.

Everything you mention could also be used by Trump against Hillary:

She is a pathological liar.
She is concerned only with her entitlement to the presidency.
She makes terrible decisions; in her official capacities, her campaign, and her personal life.
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