Renegade Jew Strikes Again

[Ljube]

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What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected? Do they think they can control her? Her, a despotic tyrant?

This is from the May 30 issue. By the time this gets out, the Never Trump movement might officially be over.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/a-choice-not-an-echo/article/2002482

[Penelope]

What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected?

That's the idea. The Never Trump crowd is smart. A third party run would be designed to either elect Hillary (without going forward with the political suicide of publicly supporting her) ...or throw the race to the House so that they can get past that pesky 'election' thing and install an establishment yes-man as President.

[Figueira]

What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected?

That's the idea. The Never Trump crowd is smart. A third party run would be designed to either elect Hillary (without going forward with the political suicide of publicly supporting her) ...or throw the race to the House so that they can get past that pesky 'election' thing and install an establishment yes-man as President.

A third party conservative run isn't going to throw the election to the House.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected?

That's the idea. The Never Trump crowd is smart. A third party run would be designed to either elect Hillary (without going forward with the political suicide of publicly supporting her) ...or throw the race to the House so that they can get past that pesky 'election' thing and install an establishment yes-man as President.

The House is not free to elect any man. They have to choose between the three top-electoral vote getters.

[Vosem]

What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected?

Yes, that's sort of the point.

Do they think they can control her? Her, a despotic tyrant?

No. That's not why a sizable segment of conservatives prefer her to Trump.

[Ljube]

What's wrong with this guy and the other Never Trump people? Don't they see that opposing Trump is a sure way to have Hillary elected?

Yes, that's sort of the point.

Do they think they can control her? Her, a despotic tyrant?

No. That's not why a sizable segment of conservatives prefer her to Trump.

Her rule will be the end of conservatism as you know it. The USA will become as decadent as Europe.

[Fuzzy Says: "Abolish NPR!"]

Of course the #NeverTrump movement is not worried about electability at all (they know that Trump can win), it's all about controlling him. Most of them are Bush-/Cheney-type neocons.

The War Party never sleeps.

Those folks, the true neocons, will be fine with Hillary.

[Mr. Morden]

There are three reasons for #NeverTrump Republicans to want a third party "true conservative" candidate to run, even though they'd have no chance of winning:

-It creates a "nuclear bunker" for this splinter section of the party.  In the event that Trump goes full Akin and becomes toxic for the party, then there'll at least be a flag to rally around for this splinter group of the party that's sealed off from Trump, and can help rebuild the party, post-2016.

-In the event that Trump proves toxic not just for a splinter group of Republican elites but also a splinter group of Republican *voters*, it creates an added presidential option for voters, lessening any potential dropoff in turnout, so that people still show up at the polls to vote for downballot Republicans.

-For some of the #NeverTrumpers, Clinton winning is absolutely preferable to Trump winning (and a 3rd party candidacy a way to help make that happen), because Trump winning would remake the GOP in Trump's image, whereas Trump losing would give them (#NeverTrump elites) a better chance of continuing to hold influence within the party.

[136or142]

Renegade Jew?  Was this thread hacked?

If not, I think this is the only appropriate response:

I stumbled to my feet
 I rode past destruction in the ditches
 With the stitches still mending ’neath a heart-shaped tattoo
Renegade priests and treacherous young witches
 Were handing out the flowers that I’d given to you

[Mr. Morden]

Renegade Jew?  Was this thread hacked?

It's a reference to this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/16/breitbart-headline-labels-bill-kristol-a-renegade-jew-for-opposing-donald-trump/

[Ljube]

There are three reasons for #NeverTrump Republicans to want a third party "true conservative" candidate to run, even though they'd have no chance of winning:

-It creates a "nuclear bunker" for this splinter section of the party.  In the event that Trump goes full Akin and becomes toxic for the party, then there'll at least be a flag to rally around for this splinter group of the party that's sealed off from Trump, and can help rebuild the party, post-2016.

-In the event that Trump proves toxic not just for a splinter group of Republican elites but also a splinter group of Republican *voters*, it creates an added presidential option for voters, lessening any potential dropoff in turnout, so that people still show up at the polls to vote for downballot Republicans.

-For some of the #NeverTrumpers, Clinton winning is absolutely preferable to Trump winning (and a 3rd party candidacy a way to help make that happen), because Trump winning would remake the GOP in Trump's image, whereas Trump losing would give them (#NeverTrump elites) a better chance of continuing to hold influence within the party.

I count on them being rational. What good is influence within the party if the party is without influence?

[136or142]

Renegade Jew?  Was this thread hacked?

It's a reference to this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/16/breitbart-headline-labels-bill-kristol-a-renegade-jew-for-opposing-donald-trump/

Thanks. I was wondering if the OP thought that Paul Ryan was Jewish.

[Ronnie]

I have no reason to believe Kristol is doing anything other than trolling and agitating.  The ability to begin and run a viable national third party campaign will very soon be all but forclosed, and no one has even hinted at being willing to step up to home plate and run the gauntlet.

[Wisconsin+17]

A trump supporter who's anti-Semitic? Yeah, that's really going to encourage me to come over to Trump.

[Eraserhead]

Renegade Jew?  Was this thread hacked?

It's a reference to this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/16/breitbart-headline-labels-bill-kristol-a-renegade-jew-for-opposing-donald-trump/

Is there any relation to the Alpha Jews?

[SATW]

A trump supporter who's anti-Semitic? Yeah, that's really going to encourage me to come over to Trump.

^ This.

I am proud to be a #RenegadeJew.

[Figueira]

Wait, so Jews who don't support Trump are Renegade Jews? I guess I'll have to hop on the Renegade Jew Train.

[136or142]

Renegade Jew?  Was this thread hacked?

It's a reference to this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/16/breitbart-headline-labels-bill-kristol-a-renegade-jew-for-opposing-donald-trump/

Is there any relation to the Alpha Jews?

Is that any relation to the Alpha course?

[LLR]

Wait, so Jews who don't support Trump are Renegade Jews? I guess I'll have to hop on the Renegade Jew Train.

[ag]

It would be interesting to see a poll of the Jewish voting intentions. My fellow tribesmen may be quite unified at this point.

[LLR]

It would be interesting to see a poll of the Jewish voting intentions. My fellow tribesmen may be quite unified at this point.

It's usually 80-20 or so, I'd suspect higher this year.