Clinton: Polls Showing Sanders Could Beat Trump "Mean Nothing To Me"

[madelka]

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She's not totally wrong, tbh, but it's a pretty bold thing to say nonetheless.

[Ronnie]

Hillary has stopped playing games with Sanders.  She's frustrated at the fact that Sanders' numbers aren't falling off even though he lacks a path to victory.  Further, she wants him and his supporters to know that he won't be the nominee, and that they better get on board.

I'm, frankly, fine with her new tone.  Being gentle with Sanders and his supporters has only emboldened them to push back against her candidacy.  It's time to force them to confront reality.

[Badger]

Hillary admittedly has a point. She's been the subject of attacks from the national GOP and conservative groups for almost 25 straight years without cease. Bernie has had a few afterthought swipes from commentators and candidates about being an avowed socialist. There woud be tremendous opportunity, material and resources to drive his negatives way up if the GOP needed to, but it knows it won't.

[Maxwell]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

[Skye]

Well, she certainly isn't wrong.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Clinton herself was polling better than Obama after it was obvious that she lost the nomination in 2008 and Republicans stopped attacking her.

[Vosem]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Do you seriously think either is a weaker general election candidate than Trump?

[MK]

Hillary admittedly has a point. She's been the subject of attacks from the national GOP and conservative groups for almost 25 straight years without cease. Bernie has had a few afterthought swipes from commentators and candidates about being an avowed socialist. There woud be tremendous opportunity, material and resources to drive his negatives way up if the GOP needed to, but it knows it won't.

All it would take is a few months of truth telling and education on socialism  and Sanders would be McGovern 2.0

Hes 74 years old and never had a chance in hell to beat Hillary . 

[Maxwell]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Do you seriously think either is a weaker general election candidate than Trump?

I'd say Cruz is legitimately weaker.

[nicholas.slaydon]

This is the kind of attitude that might make her loose the election. Does she not know that this condescending tone just turns off Bernie voters from considering her?

[Landslide Lyndon]

This is the kind of attitude that might make her loose the election. Does she not know that this condescending tone just turns off Bernie voters from considering her?

So telling the obvious is condescending?
Good God, you Berniebots have a skin thinner that TRUMP's.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

This is the kind of attitude that might make her loose the election. Does she not know that this condescending tone just turns off Bernie voters from considering her?

What is she supposed to say? "Yes, he may be the stronger candidate?"

First you guys accuse Hillary of telling lies. Now she tells the truth and she's not being tactful enough. Some of these Sanders folks are so entitled, seriously. He lost. Hillary owes him nothing. And if it hurts your feelings when she assesses the situation honestly, it beats me how Bernbots could ever expect to actually face Trump from a position of strength.

[MK]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Do you seriously think either is a weaker general election candidate than Trump?

I'd say Cruz is legitimately weaker.

I could see Hillary never trailing in any poll with Cruz.

[IceSpear]

No seasoned politicians care about polls this early, except to the extent in which it shapes their campaign's strategy. As Hillary said, if they didn't care about the electability argument coming from a longstanding figure in the party who arguably won the popular vote, why would they care about it now?

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/Jun03.html (Obama 276, McCain 238)
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/Jun03.html (Clinton 327, McCain 174)

[Fusionmunster]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Do you seriously think either is a weaker general election candidate than Trump?

I'd say Cruz is legitimately weaker.

I could see Hillary never trailing in any poll with Cruz.

Im almost 100% positive she has trailed Cruz in polls.

[Ljube]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Do you seriously think either is a weaker general election candidate than Trump?

I'd say Cruz is legitimately weaker.

I could see Hillary never trailing in any poll with Cruz.

Or Kasich.

Kasich, who?

[Cruzcrew]

This was a pretty good point and then she ruined it with the "it certainly doesn't matter to me" ending.

[IceSpear]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Remember the electable titan Ben Carson? LOL

[Ljube]

And for a while, Ted Cruz and John Kasich were doing better than Trump in the general election polling.

Remember the electable titan Ben Carson? LOL

I must admit I was fooled for a moment.

But then came the legendary: "How stupid are the people of Iowa?"

[IceSpear]

Clinton herself was polling better than Obama after it was obvious that she lost the nomination in 2008 and Republicans stopped attacking her.

Remember this ad McCain released?

https://youtu.be/3NrQ36Djf2E

Republicans constantly kissing your butt or ignoring you because they know you're no threat raises your poll numbers. Who would've thought?!

[Lyin' Steve]

Hillary admittedly has a point. She's been the subject of attacks from the national GOP and conservative groups for almost 25 straight years without cease. Bernie has had a few afterthought swipes from commentators and candidates about being an avowed socialist. There woud be tremendous opportunity, material and resources to drive his negatives way up if the GOP needed to, but it knows it won't.

All it would take is a few months of truth telling and education on socialism  and Sanders would be McGovern 2.0

Hes 74 years old and never had a chance in hell to beat Hillary .  

If Sanders was nominated he might just be the weakest and most humiliating candidate the democratic party has ever put up.  James Cox and George McClellan are the only two I can think of who might be weaker.  Cox did a perfectly reasonable job in his election and wasn't a damaging candidate, he was just kind of an inexperienced blank slate and got absolutely obliterated because the country was doing so well and nobody wanted to switch parties.  McClellan is one of the worst generals in American history, but he was hurt more by the asinine anti-war platform the democratic party put up and the withdrawal of John C. Frémont than by any ineptitudes of his own.  McGovern was a miserable radical as well, and his "just give everyone $1000" proposal sounded even more flatly ridiculous than Sanders' ideas, but he never truly gave away his dignity, embraced the label of an extremist, inspired and defended civil disorder in his name, or attacked his own party the way Sanders has, although the party absolutely despised him afterwards anyway for being such a bumblef**k.

On another note I'm happy to see Clinton finally getting more aggressive just in general.  She's been so uncharacteristically nice and inclusive this entire election.  I want to see a 3 AM phone call commercial and her deputies blitzing the media with Reverend Wright and cokehead Obama like they did in 2008.  Take your damn gloves off already girl!

[Badger]

Hillary admittedly has a point. She's been the subject of attacks from the national GOP and conservative groups for almost 25 straight years without cease. Bernie has had a few afterthought swipes from commentators and candidates about being an avowed socialist. There woud be tremendous opportunity, material and resources to drive his negatives way up if the GOP needed to, but it knows it won't.

All it would take is a few months of truth telling and education on socialism  and Sanders would be McGovern 2.0

Hes 74 years old and never had a chance in hell to beat Hillary . 

This. Though his socialism would've damaged him far more than his age.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Hillary has stopped playing games with Sanders.  She's frustrated at the fact that Sanders' numbers aren't falling off even though he lacks a path to victory.  Further, she wants him and his supporters to know that he won't be the nominee, and that they better get on board.

I'm, frankly, fine with her new tone.  Being gentle with Sanders and his supporters has only emboldened them to push back against her candidacy.  It's time to force them to confront reality.

The reality that they won't be voting for her, because rather than make any attempt to reach out, negotiate, or otherwise act like a politician, she's instead demanding to be crowned?

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Clinton herself was polling better than Obama after it was obvious that she lost the nomination in 2008 and Republicans stopped attacking her.

No

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Democratic_nominee_vs._Republican_nominee_2

[Landslide Lyndon]

Hillary admittedly has a point. She's been the subject of attacks from the national GOP and conservative groups for almost 25 straight years without cease. Bernie has had a few afterthought swipes from commentators and candidates about being an avowed socialist. There woud be tremendous opportunity, material and resources to drive his negatives way up if the GOP needed to, but it knows it won't.

All it would take is a few months of truth telling and education on socialism  and Sanders would be McGovern 2.0

Hes 74 years old and never had a chance in hell to beat Hillary . 

This. Though his socialism would've damaged him far more than his age.

Or the fact that once he blamed cervical cancer on lack of orgasms.