Washington Primary results thread (both parties; “polls close” at 11pm ET)

[catographer]

Also why did she do better in Washington's primary than Oregon's?

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Final results for today (their will be more updates at various times in the coming days)

Republican
Donald J. Trump 76.22%
Ted Cruz 10.12%
John R. Kasich 9.85%
Ben Carson 3.81%

Democrat
Hillary Clinton 53.63%
Bernie Sanders 46.37%

Voter turnout so far is 28.37%, with an estimated 96,200 ballots on hand that need to be counted.
Here is a schedule per county when the next updates will take place http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/Turnout.html

[cwt]

So the real question is: Why didn't all these Hillary supporters participate in the caucus? The disparity in the caucus and primary results of Washington state is astounding; a 72-28 victory for Sanders to a 54-46 victory for Clinton. That's a swing of 52 points. Nebraska's caucus v. primary results weren't this bad.

Because Clinton basically had the nomination wrapped up at the time of the caucus. Why would her supporters waste a Saturday afternoon at a middle school cafeteria when she's going to win anyway?

With the primary, it's all done by mail, so there's no reason not to vote.

[Eraserhead]

Also why did she do better in Washington's primary than Oregon's?

Oregon was actually contested. Both campaigns paid literally zero attention to this since it's meaningless in term of delegates.

[sportydude]

So, the counting has stopped on both sides? What happened?

[catographer]

So the real question is: Why didn't all these Hillary supporters participate in the caucus? The disparity in the caucus and primary results of Washington state is astounding; a 72-28 victory for Sanders to a 54-46 victory for Clinton. That's a swing of 52 points. Nebraska's caucus v. primary results weren't this bad.

Because Clinton basically had the nomination wrapped up at the time of the caucus. Why would her supporters waste a Saturday afternoon at a middle school cafeteria when she's going to win anyway?

With the primary, it's all done by mail, so there's no reason not to vote.

Washington's primary certainly wasn't at a point when she had it locked up. Certainly not according to all the pundits or Sanders supporters; in fact, the talk of possibly defeating her was just heating us as Sanders would begin a 6-7 contest winning streak uninterrupted for a month.

However, you're pretty much correct. But I still don't really think that that accounts for the entire disparity; it might, and certainly the 30,000 who turned out in the caucus pales in comparison to the apparently 700,000 who came out today (even when the primary was meaningless and ignored by both campaigns).

[Seriously?]

Also why did she do better in Washington's primary than Oregon's?

Because it was meaningless. It mattered, the Sanders campaign would have sunk resources into the primary to get out the youth vote.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

So, the counting has stopped on both sides? What happened?

The rest of the ballots will be counted in the coming days I posted a schedule above when the next updates are expected for each county 

[Seriously?]

Final results for today (their will be more updates at various times in the coming days)

Republican
Donald J. Trump 76.22%
Ted Cruz 10.12%
John R. Kasich 9.85%
Ben Carson 3.81%

Democrat
Hillary Clinton 53.63%
Bernie Sanders 46.37%

Voter turnout so far is 28.37%, with an estimated 96,200 ballots on hand that need to be counted.
Here is a schedule per county when the next updates will take place http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/Turnout.html

I forgot how cumbersome Washington State can be in a close election with how they deal with all these mail-in ballots. With that said, the margins shouldn't change that much with ~100K additional ballots to be counted split between both parties.

[Eraserhead]

Final results for today (their will be more updates at various times in the coming days)

Republican
Donald J. Trump 76.22%
Ted Cruz 10.12%
John R. Kasich 9.85%
Ben Carson 3.81%

Democrat
Hillary Clinton 53.63%
Bernie Sanders 46.37%

Voter turnout so far is 28.37%, with an estimated 96,200 ballots on hand that need to be counted.
Here is a schedule per county when the next updates will take place http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/Turnout.html

28.37% turnout is pretty awful.

Compare it to turnout in Oregon.

http://oregonvotes.gov/results/2016P/index.html

[RaphaelDLG]

Caucuses are bad relative to binding primaries, but you're officially a moron if you think that that beauty contest primaries are better than caucuses.

The turnout for this one is much better than Nebraska's but you'd still expect it to approach 900,000 to match the normal 4:1 binding primary:caucus ratio.

[Seriously?]

Final results for today (their will be more updates at various times in the coming days)

Republican
Donald J. Trump 76.22%
Ted Cruz 10.12%
John R. Kasich 9.85%
Ben Carson 3.81%

Democrat
Hillary Clinton 53.63%
Bernie Sanders 46.37%

Voter turnout so far is 28.37%, with an estimated 96,200 ballots on hand that need to be counted.
Here is a schedule per county when the next updates will take place http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/Turnout.html

28.37% turnout is pretty awful.

Compare it to turnout in Oregon.

http://oregonvotes.gov/results/2016P/index.html

You really can't make that comparison. The Republican race in OR was contested when some of the ballots were mailed. The Democrat contest mattered.

In WA, the Republican race is over and the Democrats just have a meaningless beauty contest.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

AP has put up results from Districts 1, 7, 9, and 10, and TRUMP will get all of the delegates from those districts. So that gives him 30/30 from the CDs.

For the proportional delegates, he should get 10, and may manage 11. If he dramatically falls or rises in the late count he could get to 9 or 12, but that's probably not going to happen. So 40-41/44 statewide for TRUMP, with the rest going to uncommitted.

[catographer]

So which state will put Trump over 1,237?

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Also why did she do better in Washington's primary than Oregon's?

Because Bernie people didn't care and didn't bother to vote.

[Eraserhead]

Final results for today (their will be more updates at various times in the coming days)

Republican
Donald J. Trump 76.22%
Ted Cruz 10.12%
John R. Kasich 9.85%
Ben Carson 3.81%

Democrat
Hillary Clinton 53.63%
Bernie Sanders 46.37%

Voter turnout so far is 28.37%, with an estimated 96,200 ballots on hand that need to be counted.
Here is a schedule per county when the next updates will take place http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/Turnout.html

28.37% turnout is pretty awful.

Compare it to turnout in Oregon.

http://oregonvotes.gov/results/2016P/index.html

You really can't make that comparison. The Republican race in OR was contested when some of the ballots were mailed. The Democrat contest mattered.

In WA, the Republican race is over and the Democrats just have a meaningless beauty contest.

I understand that but I'm just trying to point it out to people who think an actual primary would have similar results on the Democratic side.

[Virginiá]

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- Bernard Sanders, aggrieved Democratic presidential candidate  (WaPo)


So I guess Sanders can call off the dogs and leave the WA superdelegates alone. You know, respecting the will of the people and all that mumbo jumbo

[Lief 🗽]

Also why did she do better in Washington's primary than Oregon's?

Because Bernie people didn't care and didn't bother to vote.

Except that like three times as many people voted for Bernie today than did at the caucus.

[Lief 🗽]

So which state will put Trump over 1,237?

I think he's at about 1200 tonight, if you count the uncommitted delegates and the PA delegates who are publicly supporting him. So as soon as NJ closes he should go over 1237.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

So which state will put Trump over 1,237?

Assuming he can't count on a single uncommitted delegate vote, he is at 1139 after tonight in terms of raw pledged delegates. (assuming 40/44 from WA).

Here's the agenda for June 7th.

At 8 PM, New Jersey closes its polls. WTA state, with 51 delegates. Puts TRUMP at 1190. At 9 PM, South Dakota closes its polls, another winner take all state, with 29 delegates. Puts TRUMP at 1219. New Mexico also closes here, but it's a proportional state, so it will take a while to call the delegates. Let's skip it for now. Then comes Montana at 10 PM, complete with 27 WTA delegates. Puts TRUMP at 1246.

That's right. California is completely, totally irrelevant. And if you assume TRUMP can count on votes from 18 uncommitted delegates (pretty likely, a lot of his preferred guys got elected in PA), Montana becomes irrelevant. If you assume TRUMP can count on votes from 47 uncommitted delegates (well within the realms of possibility), then South Dakota becomes irrelevant and TRUMP gets the nomination  from NJ alone.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Apologies to every California poster, but your state has once again been relegated to meaning literally nothing in the primary calendar. Barring major surprises, both TRUMP and Clinton will have their nominations called by the networks before CA closes its polls. TRUMP won't have to rely on superdelegates; Clinton will but honestly I don't see why they'd switch to Bernie en masse at the convention.

[RI]

Fun fact: Ben Carson came in second in SDA-theocracy College Place.

[catographer]

Lol well I feel that California is meaningful only in the context of finally putting a stake in Bernie Sanders' political coffin when Hillary wins a big victory here.

[Crumpets]

Fun fact: Ben Carson came in second in SDA-theocracy College Place.

Do you have precinct data somewhere?

[Landslide Lyndon]

More proof about how ridiculous unrepresentative of voters intention the caucuses are.
But let's talk a little more about the evil of closed primaries.