yo guys, including two guys who just empty-posted right after this post, any response?
I don't share Sanchez's sentiment, but I think he means the prisoners doing the sodomizing. But what does count as "excess" harm? Life in prison is certainly a lot of harm regardless of the conditions, but the killer certainly did a lot more harm to his victims. It seems like a tough line to draw, though I agree that what Sanchez described does probably go overboard.
We could debate the line about how much torture is reasonable to levy on a bad person to discourage others from committing the same crime. But that's not the sentiment that's being expressed in this thread. I don't really understand why we should engage in, or hope for, any unnecessary sadism. I don't even get the point of torturing an unrepentant psychopath if it doesn't accomplish anything.
Is it because it's pleasurable? If it is, should we really be getting off on humiliating and torturing a human being, even one we think is awful?
Is it because he "deserves it"? First off, what does it mean to "deserve" unnecessary humiliation and torture? Second, how is being unnecessarily cruel and sadistic to bad people any different than what some monsters perceive themselves as doing? They think they're right too, and I think it's important to restrain punishment to what's necessary and productive precisely because sadistic people otherwise abuse it. Third, even if he does somehow "deserve it," what's with the gleefulness and violence-porn in this thread?
This seems like virtue-signaling behavior, but I don't really think it's virtuous at all.
Your post seemed to be about torture, not necessarily about the death penalty, whereas the empty-quoted "good" posts relate to the death penalty. Therefore, I'm not sure with whom you want to engage in a debate on this except for the people who express support for torture. I am against unnecessary humiliation and torture (and I think any humiliation and torture is generally unnecessary), but I do support the death penalty for people like Roof.
