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« on: May 25, 2016, 05:52:23 PM »

Who has a better political/governmental system, the USA or the UK?
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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2016, 12:29:32 PM »

Anyone?
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 11:37:28 AM »

UK, I would prefer a parliamentary system.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 12:08:47 PM »

I hate federalism and divided government.  Stuff never gets done here, and when it does, it's usually corrupt.

The one thing I think we can hang our hats on is popular sovereignty over parliamentary sovereignty and judicial review.  I really like our bill of rights and how our judges can stop the government from trampling the speech, expression, and due process rights of the minority without any possibility of being overruled by Congress.

We both have the crappy fptp.  UK has NHS, we have better freedom of speech/press.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2016, 12:18:19 PM »

UK, I would prefer a parliamentary system.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2016, 12:24:09 PM »

The parliamentary system is better, but redistricting would most definitely have to be done by independent third parties.
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2016, 09:06:55 AM »

Still the United States, due to the more direct election of the president. Cameron’s Party got just 36% of the vote last year. Hardly a mandate. Presidents usually receive around 50%.
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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2016, 10:03:44 PM »

Still the United States, due to the more direct election of the president. Cameron’s Party got just 36% of the vote last year. Hardly a mandate. Presidents usually receive around 50%.

The problem with direct election of the executive is that, in a two-party system like the United States, the parties are engaged in a zero-sum game of trying to screw each other, and there are almost never incentives to cooperate any more.  So if you have divided government, nothing ever gets done.

The Conservatives getting 36% of the vote but 50+% of the seats in parliament is a problem, I totally agree, but it would be best solved by keeping the parliamentary system but getting proportional representation - then Cameron would have to take his 36% and pool it with one or more parties and share power, working together, and more accurately reflecting the will of the British people overall.
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2016, 11:44:48 PM »

The parliamentary system is better, but redistricting would most definitely have to be done by independent third parties. FPTP is unacceptable.
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2016, 09:00:00 PM »

I hate federalism and divided government.  Stuff never gets done here, and when it does, it's usually corrupt.

The one thing I think we can hang our hats on is popular sovereignty over parliamentary sovereignty and judicial review.  I really like our bill of rights and how our judges can stop the government from trampling the speech, expression, and due process rights of the minority without any possibility of being overruled by Congress.

We both have the crappy fptp.  UK has NHS, we have better freedom of speech/press.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2016, 04:01:33 PM »

FPP is actually a much more accountable system that the awful list system (which allowed Nick Griffin to get elected in 2009 for the Euro elections)
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2016, 10:56:20 PM »

FPP is actually a much more accountable system that the awful list system (which allowed Nick Griffin to get elected in 2009 for the Euro elections)

Well, yes, but they're both terrible.
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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2016, 04:20:42 AM »

The parliamentary system is better, but redistricting would most definitely have to be done by independent third parties. FPTP is unacceptable.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2016, 02:32:42 PM »

The US, and it's not even close.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2016, 02:40:01 PM »

The Westminster system is one of Britain's greatest gifts to her former colonies. The convicts messed it up with proportional representation and an elected upper house, but both the UK and Canada have very good government systems.
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