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« on: May 26, 2016, 01:09:02 PM »

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/blogs/2016/05/26/mike-dewine-inadvertently-reveals-run-ohio-governor/84981298/

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« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2016, 03:38:10 PM »

Not shocking.

He will also not be alone - I'm not positive, but I think Husted runs against him. The one I'm least sure about is Lieutenant Governor Mary Taylor - does she run for Governor in 2018 or back away and try for something smaller.
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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2016, 06:39:23 PM »

I heard DeWine was rumored to be considering a revenge bid against Brown, but I guess not.
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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2016, 10:04:36 PM »

Democratic bench in Ohio has been destroyed since 2010. Anyone besides Richard Cordray or Tim Ryan is a sacrificial lamb. And even they wouldn't be favored, especially in a Clinton mid-term.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2016, 10:07:22 PM »

Democratic bench in Ohio has been destroyed since 2010. Anyone besides Richard Cordray or Tim Ryan is a sacrificial lamb. And even they wouldn't be favored, especially in a Clinton mid-term.
Yeah, Kasich basically destroyed Ed FitzGerald, who was a perfectly viable rising star until Kasich literally ignored him. Since then, the mayors of major cities all compliment him, which is a lot smarter of a thing to do than the OH Democrats, who just keep attacking a Governor with 2:1 approval ratings.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2016, 11:46:21 PM »

1: Unsurprising.
2: Taylor will definitely go for it, she's Kasich's preferred successor.
3: Kasich didn't beat Fitz by ignoring him. Fitz imploded under the weight of his own idiocy.
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2016, 12:11:14 AM »

1: Unsurprising.
2: Taylor will definitely go for it, she's Kasich's preferred successor.
3: Kasich didn't beat Fitz by ignoring him. Fitz imploded under the weight of his own idiocy.
Agreed. Taylor will do a lot better than the poll showing DeWine leading her by forty, though. If not her, then Tiberi will run.

FitzGerald suffered from a number of combined factors. However, Kasich winning Cuyahoga by seven against its County Executive makes me wonder if maybe he would have won it against even someone like Tim Ryan or Richard Cordray.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2016, 12:21:09 AM »

1: Unsurprising.
2: Taylor will definitely go for it, she's Kasich's preferred successor.
3: Kasich didn't beat Fitz by ignoring him. Fitz imploded under the weight of his own idiocy.
Agreed. Taylor will do a lot better than the poll showing DeWine leading her by forty, though. If not her, then Tiberi will run.

FitzGerald suffered from a number of combined factors. However, Kasich winning Cuyahoga by seven against its County Executive makes me wonder if maybe he would have won it against even someone like Tim Ryan or Richard Cordray.
Tiberi seems more interested in the Senate race. The GOP primary will be interesting. It could be a three way battle. I can see Husted as a strong Lt. Gov candidate if he accepts it. The Senate primary may end up being Mandel vs Tiberi. Auditor Dave Yost is likely to go for Attorney General. Any other Ohio Republicans looking to run statewide in 2018?
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2016, 12:42:49 AM »

Regional politics could play into a DeWine/Husted/Taylor primary. DeWine and Husted share a geographical base, Dayton, while Taylor hails from Akron.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2016, 12:52:04 AM »

Frank LaRose might run for Secretary of State. He would do pretty good. This alone shows he would do a pretty good job, IMO. Other than that, he's proposed legislation introducing online registration to vote and making the absentee voting system more fair and accurate. Other than that, "[h]e sponsored legislation to make Ohio’s regulatory system more efficient and more conducive to economic growth," according to Wikipedia, so he could try for Treasurer.

Mike Duffey was Kasich's intern in D. C. and worked for Kenneth Blackwell as Secretary of State, so he's another possibility for Secretary of State. Duffey also worked at a public relations firm. In the legislature, he helped privatize the Department of Development's oversight, allowing it to be more efficiently ran.

Pat DeWine, meanwhile, is far and away the most likely/qualified to be Attorney General next. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't run.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2016, 01:03:02 AM »
« Edited: May 27, 2016, 01:31:57 AM by BuckeyeNut »

Pat DeWine is going to be too busy on the State Supreme Court to run for AG.

1: Unsurprising.
2: Taylor will definitely go for it, she's Kasich's preferred successor.
3: Kasich didn't beat Fitz by ignoring him. Fitz imploded under the weight of his own idiocy.
Agreed. Taylor will do a lot better than the poll showing DeWine leading her by forty, though. If not her, then Tiberi will run.

FitzGerald suffered from a number of combined factors. However, Kasich winning Cuyahoga by seven against its County Executive makes me wonder if maybe he would have won it against even someone like Tim Ryan or Richard Cordray.
Tiberi seems more interested in the Senate race. The GOP primary will be interesting. It could be a three way battle. I can see Husted as a strong Lt. Gov candidate if he accepts it. The Senate primary may end up being Mandel vs Tiberi. Auditor Dave Yost is likely to go for Attorney General. Any other Ohio Republicans looking to run statewide in 2018?
As Heisenberg says, Tiberi seems to be gunning for the Senate seat. Yost running for AG seems a good bet, but I can't see Husted settling for Lt. Gov. (If Taylor wins, I guess he might, since he's otherwise out of options for staying in statewide politics.)

Senate President Keith Faber has said he's exploring a statewide run in 2018. He seems to have wanted AG, but might settle for Auditor. Franklin County Auditor Clarence Mingo could also take a go at it. In addition to Sen. Frank LaRose, Rep. Dorothy Palanda might also run for SoS..

Fitz losing Cuyahoga was certainly a catastrophe, but I've gathered he wasn't ever really popular there, for whatever reason. He certainly came in as a relatively unknown.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2016, 01:50:00 AM »

Pat DeWine will have had two years on the Ohio Supreme Court. Sandoval became a Judge for a District Court after just two years as Nevada's Attorney General, so it's not too far-fetched.

Steve Austria was a financial advisor before he ran for office, right? Could he pull a DeWine and run for Treasurer?
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2016, 07:22:50 AM »

I wouldn't mind if Husted runs for either Governor or Senate, but if DeWine is running for Governor, then I'd rather see Husted go for Senate.  But my preferred candidate for Senate (if he runs) would be Steve LaTourette.
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2016, 12:38:08 PM »
« Edited: May 28, 2016, 10:30:03 AM by BuckeyeNut »

Pat DeWine will have had two years on the Ohio Supreme Court. Sandoval became a Judge for a District Court after just two years as Nevada's Attorney General, so it's not too far-fetched.

Steve Austria was a financial advisor before he ran for office, right? Could he pull a DeWine and run for Treasurer?

It may not be too far-fetched, but I don't think it would go over well here. DeWine brings a lot of name recognition, not all of it positive even within the RPO. (Kevin DeWine's ousting as chairman comes to mind.) If Yost does indeed run for AG, which seems likely, it's probably in Pat's best interest to steer clear. Especially if Faber doesn't settle for Auditor.

Austria pulling a DeWine for Treasurer is an interesting idea, I can't think of anyone looking to run for it in 2018. It's probably the least sought-after of the different state executive positions. That said, Austria's remained fairly involved in party politics for an ex-Congressman, so it probably shouldn't be ruled out entirely.


I wouldn't mind if Husted runs for either Governor or Senate, but if DeWine is running for Governor, then I'd rather see Husted go for Senate.  But my preferred candidate for Senate (if he runs) would be Steve LaTourette.
Husted isn't going to run for the Senate. LaTourette's another interesting idea, but he seems content with his lobbying.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2016, 07:15:49 PM »

This is probably a very Atlasian thing to say, but I think DeWine running for Attorney General was one of the smarter things a politician has done. After losing higher office, they have a big enough name to run for a lower position. More young politicians could learn from that.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2016, 09:01:45 PM »

I wouldn't mind if Husted runs for either Governor or Senate, but if DeWine is running for Governor, then I'd rather see Husted go for Senate.  But my preferred candidate for Senate (if he runs) would be Steve LaTourette.

LaTourette pretty firmly retired, and has also been battling pancreatic cancer for 2 years.
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« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2016, 05:54:03 PM »

This is probably a very Atlasian thing to say, but I think DeWine running for Attorney General was one of the smarter things a politician has done. After losing higher office, they have a big enough name to run for a lower position. More young politicians could learn from that.

It requires a certain degree of humility that most pols lack.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2016, 05:12:15 AM »

This is probably a very Atlasian thing to say, but I think DeWine running for Attorney General was one of the smarter things a politician has done. After losing higher office, they have a big enough name to run for a lower position. More young politicians could learn from that.

Didn't Spitzer try to get elected as head dog catcher for NYC and lose though?
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2016, 09:09:48 PM »

Not shocking.

He will also not be alone - I'm not positive, but I think Husted runs against him. The one I'm least sure about is Lieutenant Governor Mary Taylor - does she run for Governor in 2018 or back away and try for something smaller.

I could see her attempting a run for the Governor or Senate. Maybe a house seat?

Nope, not the house. Her only options are primarying Jim Renacci or challenging Tim Ryan in his nigh unbeatable district.
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 11:56:40 PM »

This is probably a very Atlasian thing to say, but I think DeWine running for Attorney General was one of the smarter things a politician has done. After losing higher office, they have a big enough name to run for a lower position. More young politicians could learn from that.

Didn't Spitzer try to get elected as head dog catcher for NYC and lose though?

Yes he ran for City Comptroller in 2013 but lost to Scott Stringer in the primary. I was disappointed when he lost, he was a great governor until the scandal and would have been better than Stringer.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2016, 03:23:31 PM »
« Edited: May 30, 2016, 03:26:48 PM by Malcolm X »

Taylor humiliated herself in spectacular fashion a while back (I forget the details, but it had something to do with healthcare and was the reason she didn't run against Brown in 2012).  No one really takes her seriously anymore and her statewide career is probably over, tbh.  Husted vs. DeWine should be a primary fight for the ages.  Tiberi probably won't run for Senate (thankfully), as Stivers is all but in and the only way Mandel wins the primary is if both of those two run.  As for the Democratic bench, let's not exaggerate.  We don't even know who is running.  People thought we had no one to run against Portman and now that race is toss-up tilt D (and *could* easily be lean D by Election Day).
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2016, 11:11:43 PM »

Taylor humiliated herself in spectacular fashion a while back (I forget the details, but it had something to do with healthcare and was the reason she didn't run against Brown in 2012).  No one really takes her seriously anymore and her statewide career is probably over, tbh.  Husted vs. DeWine should be a primary fight for the ages.  Tiberi probably won't run for Senate (thankfully), as Stivers is all but in and the only way Mandel wins the primary is if both of those two run.  As for the Democratic bench, let's not exaggerate.  We don't even know who is running.  People thought we had no one to run against Portman and now that race is toss-up tilt D (and *could* easily be lean D by Election Day).
1: Whatever it was couldn't have been too bad. No one talks about whatever it was. (By no one, I mean The Dispatch, Enquirer, Plain Dealer.) And she's clearly become Kasich's preferred successor.
2: Stivers is running for Chairman of the NRCC. That's reason enough to rule out a Senate. Reasons for Tiberi to get in are plenty. (Though I am bullish on the idea.)
3: We may not know, but Ryan and Pillich are both ramping up. And talking behind closed doors.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2016, 11:27:29 AM »

Ryan won't run, I think we're he wants to gain seniority on appropriations.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2016, 12:49:17 PM »

He's been saying he will in private. It also explains his flip-flop on refugees.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2016, 07:22:10 PM »

Taylor humiliated herself in spectacular fashion a while back (I forget the details, but it had something to do with healthcare and was the reason she didn't run against Brown in 2012).  No one really takes her seriously anymore and her statewide career is probably over, tbh.  Husted vs. DeWine should be a primary fight for the ages.  Tiberi probably won't run for Senate (thankfully), as Stivers is all but in and the only way Mandel wins the primary is if both of those two run.  As for the Democratic bench, let's not exaggerate.  We don't even know who is running.  People thought we had no one to run against Portman and now that race is toss-up tilt D (and *could* easily be lean D by Election Day).
1: Whatever it was couldn't have been too bad. No one talks about whatever it was. (By no one, I mean The Dispatch, Enquirer, Plain Dealer.) And she's clearly become Kasich's preferred successor.
2: Stivers is running for Chairman of the NRCC. That's reason enough to rule out a Senate. Reasons for Tiberi to get in are plenty. (Though I am bullish on the idea.)
3: We may not know, but Ryan and Pillich are both ramping up. And talking behind closed doors.

1. I guess we'll see...

2. Not sure how I missed that.  Interesting. 

3. Ryan always ramps up.  Let's see what he actually ends up doing.
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