Northern Regional Committee

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I offer the following amendment:

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This incorporates the results of the last principle vote. Delegates have 24 hours to object.

[cinyc]

I offer the following amendment:

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This incorporates the results of the last principle vote. Delegates have 24 hours to object.

I object to the clause "but the Assembly may designate another city as the temporary capital in times of crisis."  Crisis is too vague a term.  I propose it say "times of war" instead or the clause be completely deleted.

[Kingpoleon]

I propose "crisis, as determined with the recommendation of the Governor or Speaker and confirmed by four-fifths or more of all voting members of the Assembly..."

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

what about having a public referendum on the capital in conjunction with the ratification vote, actually?

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I propose "crisis, as determined with the recommendation of the Governor or Speaker and confirmed by four-fifths or more of all voting members of the Assembly..."

That seems unnecessarily complicated. I'd rather just strike the clause entirely.

what about having a public referendum on the capital in conjunction with the ratification vote, actually?

I would be fine with this.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

On second thought, I think it's best to just pass this and let the Assembly debate any further changes to the Region's capital. I will strike the crisis clause from my original amendment; if there are no objections in 24 hours, we will move forward with a final vote on the proposed Constitution.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

That's a better idea.  The Assembly can set the terms for the referendum and so forth.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

One last amendment:

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As the election mandated by Section 2 will likely take place in early August, this removes the need for a redundant second election two weeks after the initial vote.

[Blair]

I support this

[cinyc]

I support this, too.

[Kingpoleon]

I also support this.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

One last amendment

I support this

I support this, too.

I also support this.

With four delegates in favor, this amendment has been ADOPTED!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

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[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Section 3 of article 7 is being written out, I thought?

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Section 3 of article 7 is being written out, I thought?

Just the part about selecting a temporary capital in times of crisis. The first Assembly will have the power to amend Article VII as desired, so section 3 is by no means written in stone. I will be very surprised if an amendment mandating a referendum on the matter is not among the first proposals considered by the Assembly.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Section 3 of article 7 is being written out, I thought?

Just the part about selecting a temporary capital in times of crisis. The first Assembly will have the power to amend Article VII as desired, so section 3 is by no means written in stone. I will be very surprised if an amendment mandating a referendum on the matter is not among the first proposals considered by the Assembly.

I think it might be a good idea to just remove the section entirely and leave the process of selecting the capital to referendum via citizens suggesting cities and then voting on them.  I'll PM you a draft I'd written up a few days ago.

[Gass3268]

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[cinyc]

One nit:

Article I, Section 3 says that if fewer than 5 run for Assembly, 3 are elected, but if 6 or more run, 5 are elected.  What happens if there are just 5 is unclear.  Fewer than 5 should probably be 5 or fewer, no?

Otherwise, the draft looks okay.

[cinyc]

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The capital of the old Mideast was in Maryland, which was hardly a central location for the region.  I offered Pittsburgh, which is pretty central, but no one voted for it but me.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Fewer than 5 should probably be 5 or fewer, no?

Good catch.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

At Scott's request, I offer the following amendment:

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I am interested to here what the rest of the Committee thinks of this.

[cinyc]

At Scott's request, I offer the following amendment:

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I am interested to here what the rest of the Committee thinks of this.

I don't like the idea of the capital being changed by simple law.  It makes incessant capital moves more likely, which is costly.  It should be in the constitution.

I have no problem holding a referendum on the capital congruent with the ratification vote.  Give people until the Thursday before the vote to nominate cities.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I have no problem holding a referendum on the capital congruent with the ratification vote.  Give people until the Thursday before the vote to nominate cities.

I'd be fine with this as well.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

Okay, since apparently nobody else has anything to say on the matter, I propose that we (a) immediately strike Section 3 of Article VII; and (b) adopt Scott's bill mandating a referendum on the Regional capital alongside the ratification vote on the Constitution. If there are no objections, we will move ahead with a final vote on the Constitution posted above, less 7.3, on Wednesday morning.