Western Regional Committee

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I have set up a thread so we can begin are important task of setting the Senate Election dates, and create the new Constitution. Should we elect a chair first? decide on rules?  establish dates for senate elections ?. What should are time frame be for votes 48 hours? 72 hours? something else?, how many votes to pass resolutions  should we have 3? 4?. Anyways, If we can start in this weekend some time that would be great.

[Lumine]

I strongly suggest electing a Chair first by simple vote, then quickly setting on rules in a vote (or via consensus if we're all in agreement), and then the Chair can establish target dates and we can begin the debate.

[Goldwater]

I strongly suggest electing a Chair first by simple vote, then quickly setting on rules in a vote (or via consensus if we're all in agreement), and then the Chair can establish target dates and we can begin the debate.

Yeah, this sounds good to me.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I strongly suggest electing a Chair first by simple vote, then quickly setting on rules in a vote (or via consensus if we're all in agreement), and then the Chair can establish target dates and we can begin the debate.

Yeah, this sounds good to me.

[Lumine]

If the rest agree as well I'd advise as well for someone to announce his interest in being chair (I think Ted would be ideal as our previous governor, but it's up to him).

[Mike Thick]

I would like to serve the committee as chair.

[Goldwater]

I'm fine with Ted as chair.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I will endorse Ted as chair

[rpryor03]

I'll support Ted as Chair. And I think that's a majority supporting Ted.

[Lumine]

Yep, 5/5, congratulations to the new Chair!

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

The following amendments to the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia have passed the Senate and await ratification by the Regions. I recommend that the Legislative Committee place these amendments on the ballot alongside the special senatorial election.

Regards,
Harry S Truman
Speaker of the Senate

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[Mike Thick]

So, first of all, we need to seat Senators. tmth pretty much summed up my thoughts in another thread:

I see two different routes we could take:
Route 1: Have separate special elections for the Class A and Class B Senate seats as soon as possible.
Route 2: Let this committee appoint the two senators.

There could also be a hybrid option, where we appoint the seat that is to be elected in June and hold a special election for the seat that is to be elected in August.

Those are what I see as the most plausible options - I'll leave it open for others to discuss before weighing in.

I personally think that the hybrid option is probably best -- having two simultaneous special elections is a tad confusing, but if we have one we can put the amendments on the ballot alongside the Senate seat. However, there are arguments to be made for any of those. What do you guys think?

[Goldwater]

Okay, let me just make sure I'm fully understanding what you are saying. You are suggesting that one of the Senators should be appointed by this committee, while the other one is elected by the people alongside the amendment votes. Am I correct?

[Mike Thick]

Okay, let me just make sure I'm fully understanding what you are saying. You are suggesting that one of the Senators should be appointed by this committee, while the other one is elected by the people alongside the amendment votes. Am I correct?

Yes. Specifically, the June seat would be appointed while the August seat would have a special election.

[Goldwater]

Got it. Yeah, that sounds like the best solution to me, since having two special elections at once could be a bit confusing and problematic.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I would propose we do it the other way, we hold an immediate election for the June seat and appoint someone to the August seat.

[Mike Thick]

I would propose we do it the other way, we hold an immediate election for the June seat and appoint someone to the August seat.

I don't think this is the way to go. The August Senator would go for quite a while without being approved by voters, while the June Senate seat would be voted on two times during that period.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I would propose we do it the other way, we hold an immediate election for the June seat and appoint someone to the August seat.

I don't think this is the way to go. The August Senator would go for quite a while without being approved by voters, while the June Senate seat would be voted on two times during that period.

I am fine with the original suggestion, who were you proposing to appoint?

Edit I would ideally want someone that has either served in the Senate before or been a VP/President.

[Mike Thick]

I would propose we do it the other way, we hold an immediate election for the June seat and appoint someone to the August seat.

I don't think this is the way to go. The August Senator would go for quite a while without being approved by voters, while the June Senate seat would be voted on two times during that period.

I am fine with the original suggestion, who were you proposing to appoint?

Edit I would ideally want someone that has either served in the Senate before or been a VP/President.

I suggest that we open it up to applicants, then hold a vote. Personally, I don't find experience to be too important, but that's something the Committee should decide by voting on the Senator.

Another subject we need to figure out -- rules of order. I'd like to get this done (both the Regional Constitution and the rules) as quickly as possible. Perhaps we could employ a version of the ConCon rules mentioned in Articles IV and V, with shorter voting periods to grease the wheels. Thoughts?

[Mike Thick]

I modified Truman's rules for the North slightly:

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I don't see anything too glaringly wrong, but what do you guys think? Any stupid errors/changes you might make?

[Lumine]

There's two mentions to the Northern Region there, other than that, it has my full support.

Same with appointing the Senator that will serve until August and holding an election to the other seat.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

I modified Truman's rules for the North slightly:

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I don't see anything too glaringly wrong, but what do you guys think? Any stupid errors/changes you might make?

This is what I would fix

[Mike Thick]

I considered striking that as well, but since it would only require a majority vote of delegates to overturn I didn't bother . That's fine.

[Mike Thick]

If nobody objects to the amended rules within about an hour, I'll take them as accepted and move on to a resolution for Senate races.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Which set of rules the original or amended version