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« on: May 27, 2016, 02:06:17 PM »
« edited: May 27, 2016, 02:12:48 PM by RR1997 »

As we all know, white males (especially working-class ones) absolutely hate Hillary. According to polls, there is a huge gender gap. Donald Trump crushes Hillary with white males. Sanders does mildly better with them. One of the main reasons why the election is so close is because white males are so anti-Clinton. So many white males who voted for Obama are going to vote for Trump this year. Donald Trump could make up for losing minority support with large gains with white males.

Hillary can't win unless she does at least alright with white males. What does Hillary need to do in order to appeal to more white males?
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2016, 02:08:04 PM »

Develop technology that makes her appear as Bernie Sanders to white males when they watch her speak/do things? Not sure otherwise.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2016, 02:10:37 PM »

As we all know, white males absolutely hate Hillary. According to polls, there is a huge gender gap. Donald Trump crushes Hillary with white males. Sanders does mildly better with them. One of the main reasons why the election is so close is because white males are so anti-Clinton. So many white males who voted for Obama are going to vote for Trump this year. Donald Trump could make up for losing minority support with large gains with white males.

Hillary can't win unless she does at least alright with white makes. What does Hillary need to do in order to appeal to more white males?

Have a hot VP running mate? Not dress like Kim Jong-Un and actually care about what you're talking about? Not have scandals like Benghazi and the email leak hovering over you?
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2016, 02:11:27 PM »

Go back in time and be born a man.
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2016, 02:13:01 PM »

Go back in time and be born a man.
If I was her, I'd kill Hitler instead.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2016, 02:14:17 PM »

Develop technology that makes her appear as Bernie Sanders to white males when they watch her speak/do things? Not sure otherwise.

Yeah, Hillary's popularity is especially low among white males, but her numbers appear to be eroding across the board. Lucky for her, with the IG report just out, she has bigger problems to worry about...
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2016, 02:14:35 PM »

Actually, there is one promise Hillary could make that would likely get me to vote for her: Her first act as president would be the full pardon of Edward Snowden. That would make up for her email gaffe by pardoning the man that blew the story wide open on domestic spying.
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2016, 02:25:40 PM »

Go back in time and be born a man.
If I was her, I'd kill Hitler instead.

But then who would people compare Trump to??
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2016, 02:48:13 PM »

The same way Barack Obama did - run a smart campaign with a finely crafted, logical, inspiring message about economic issues.

There are some white men (i.e., those who support Bernie in the primary) who don't support her now but will probably support her in the general regardless of what she does.

There are some white men who won't support her even if she mails every white man a check for $100.  These are mostly the same people who didn't support Obama in 12.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2016, 02:56:45 PM »

1 - state that the democrat position on abortion is a historical aberration and that as the party of the small people - the weak and the helpless that she supports the Texas bill for restriction on all abortions after 20 weeks as a 'reasonable compromise'.

2 - state that Oberfell was wrongly decided and that the Democrat party should return to it's roots of representing America in general, not the special interests of a small band of urbanites.

3 - state that she'd appoint supreme court justices with the motivation to overturn both Oberfell and roe.

Running to the right of Trump would win her the election easily.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2016, 02:57:36 PM »

That being said, the correct answer is, "nothing". She doesn't need white men. She just needs to double down on her base.
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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2016, 03:03:49 PM »

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And Trump will lose. Your point?
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2016, 03:04:15 PM »

That being said, the correct answer is, "nothing". She doesn't need white men. She just needs to double down on her base.
^^ i should hope so. would be nice to have a major campaign not constantly pandering to white men again.
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2016, 03:06:46 PM »

1 - state that the democrat position on abortion is a historical aberration and that as the party of the small people - the weak and the helpless that she supports the Texas bill for restriction on all abortions after 20 weeks as a 'reasonable compromise'.

2 - state that Oberfell was wrongly decided and that the Democrat party should return to it's roots of representing America in general, not the special interests of a small band of urbanites.

3 - state that she'd appoint supreme court justices with the motivation to overturn both Oberfell and roe.

Running to the right of Trump would win her the election easily.


til gay people only live in cities

and that you're a dumbass.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2016, 03:09:43 PM »

The question is flawed; indeed, if Hillary Clinton spends this election trying to improve her favorabilities, she will not succeed.  The only strategy that she should employ is to absolutely destroy Donald Trump's stature.  This is a "who do you hate more?" election and Clinton's campaign should not waste any time pretending otherwise.
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2016, 03:10:01 PM »

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Given that a Democrat can win America with just 20 counties, yes, they are the party of urbanites.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2016, 03:10:09 PM »

Realistically, nothing. Her supporters believe any specific appeal to Whites and/or men is inherently racist.
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« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2016, 03:10:16 PM »

1 - state that the democrat position on abortion is a historical aberration and that as the party of the small people - the weak and the helpless that she supports the Texas bill for restriction on all abortions after 20 weeks as a 'reasonable compromise'.

2 - state that Oberfell was wrongly decided and that the Democrat party should return to it's roots of representing America in general, not the special interests of a small band of urbanites.

3 - state that she'd appoint supreme court justices with the motivation to overturn both Oberfell and roe.

Running to the right of Trump would win her the election easily.


til gay people only live in cities

and that you're a dumbass.
I think he wants a Republican Hillary.
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2016, 03:11:24 PM »

Hillary doesn't need white men in order to win.
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« Reply #19 on: May 27, 2016, 03:12:11 PM »

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Given that a Democrat can win America with just 20 counties, yes, they are the party of urbanites.

That's why Vermont is a solidly Republican state.
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« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2016, 03:17:04 PM »

The same way Barack Obama did - run a smart campaign with a finely crafted, logical, inspiring message about economic issues.

There are some white men (i.e., those who support Bernie in the primary) who don't support her now but will probably support her in the general regardless of what she does.

There are some white men who won't support her even if she mails every white man a check for $100.  These are mostly the same people who didn't support Obama in 12.

That is not true. There are so many white males who voted for Obama in 2012 who'll vote for Donald Trump this year:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/whoa-hillary-clinton-trails-trump-30-points-white-males-swing-states/

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Hillary is trailing Donald Trump by 30 points with white males in some swing states. She's doing worse than Obama with white males. She can't win if she's trailing Trump by this much with white males. She needs to a pick a white male VP in order to defeat Trump.
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« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2016, 03:20:33 PM »

She needs to a pick a white male VP in order to defeat Trump.

Lol.  No.  For example, if she picked Elizabeth Warren, it would easily placate the reservations of most Sanders supporters, and prevent many of them from sitting out the election or voting third party.

How do you think this works?  Women didn't vote for McCain just because he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate.
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« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2016, 03:30:34 PM »

Well she will never win all white males but she can target subgroups within white males such as gays, non-christians (jews, muslims, buddists, athiests/agnostics), liberals, urbanites, youngs, unmarried. Basically micro-target enough subgroups so that her losses with white men as a whole isn't so bad. Each group will get different messages. 

Of course her biggest challenge with white men is getting liberal independent millennials (aka Bernie Bros) out to vote for her. This group will never like her but their fear/hatred of Trump could be enough. Also, deploying surrogates will help, like Sanders and Warren and possibly others, maybe some pop culture personalities as well.

She also has an opportunity with the college educated moderate suburban Republican-leaning white men (aka NeverTrump types). Again anti-Trump messaging will be key here to at least keep them from voting Trump.
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« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2016, 03:43:17 PM »

Because of demographic trends, Hillary can do somewhat worse among white men, keep all other cohorts stable, and still win comfortably.  So she could potentially still win hemmorrhaging white men but with a strong democratic swing among women and latinos.  I wouldn't try it, but it might work.
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« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2016, 04:12:43 PM »

Should Hillary pick Al Franken as her VP? He's left-wing enough to bring back dissatisfied Bernie supporters and he's a white male (unlike Warren).
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