What State do you think Johnson/Weld has the best chance of winning?
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« on: May 29, 2016, 07:21:31 PM »

This is it.

This is the year that the Libertarians become a 'major party.' (or so Johnson tells us)

To quote another libertarian who ran in a different party: "It's happening!"

So... where does the revolution start?

Note: you do not actually need to think that the Libs will win a state, just where do you think that, if they DID win a state, it would happen?
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2016, 07:25:06 PM »

All the mountain west states, Utah definitely this year.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2016, 07:26:37 PM »

Utah. New Mexico.
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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2016, 07:28:45 PM »

New Mexico, duh.
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2016, 07:29:22 PM »

1. Utah
2. Alaska
3. Maine
4. New Mexico
5. Kansas/Idaho
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2016, 07:29:56 PM »

Alaska, Utah, or New Mexico, in that order.
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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2016, 07:31:17 PM »

Agreed except Utah. Why would you refrain from voting for one pro-choice slate to elect another pro-choice slate?

I just expect ludicrously low turnout in Utah.

My personal bet is CO.  Trump will take the True Reaganites in CO Springs, Clinton the growing Latino communities in the south and Progressives in Boulder/Denver.  

Libs take from both sides, with the actual Colorado libertarians in CO springs,  plus some libertarian minded moderate Dems and Progs.

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« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2016, 07:37:31 PM »

Alaska or Utah.

Also, inb4 the "none of them, libertarians are dumb hur hur" trolls
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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2016, 07:43:46 PM »

Alaska, Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, New Mexico in that order.
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« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2016, 07:45:29 PM »

In no order other than alphabetical: Alaska, Idaho, Utah.
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« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2016, 07:50:12 PM »

I put this together a month ago, which should help guess:

Top 10 LP states in 2012:
1. New Mexico 3.55%
2. Montana 2.93%
3. Alaska 2.46%
4. Wyoming 2.14%
5. Indiana 1.91%
6. Kansas 1.76%
7. North Dakota 1.62%
8. South Dakota 1.59%
9. Missouri 1.56%
10. Arkansas 1.52%

Bottom 5 LP states in 2012 where we were on the ballot (no ballot access in MI and OK):
5. New York 0.67%
4. Alabama 0.59%
3. New Jersey 0.58%
2. Florida 0.53%
1. Mississippi 0.52%

Best 5 states in 2008 were: Indiana, Georgia, Utah, Texas, Wyoming.
Best 5 states in 2004 were: Indiana, Idaho, Illinois, Arizona, Georgia.
Best 5 states in 2000 were: Georgia, Alaska, Colorado, Indiana, Idaho.
Best 5 states in 1996 were: Arizona, Nevada, Alaska, New Hampshire, Colorado.
Best 5 states in 1992 were: New Hampshire, Colorado, Alaska, Arizona, California.
Best 5 states in 1988 were: Alaska, Montana, Idaho, Kansas, Oregon.

States that appear in top 5s multiple times since 1988: Alaska (5), Indiana (4), Arizona (3), Colorado (3), Georgia (3), Idaho (3), Montana (2), New Hampshire (2), Wyoming (2).

I believe the best LP result ever was the 11.66% in Alaska in 1980, which was admittedly greatly assisted by Kochbucks.
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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2016, 07:54:21 PM »

1. Alaska
2. Maine
3. Utah
4. Idaho
5. New Mexico
6. Montana
7. Wyoming
8. Missouri
9. Arkansas
10. Indiana
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« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2016, 08:17:25 PM »

None because Lolbertarians are a joke.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2016, 09:34:40 PM »

Unfortunately, I don't think he'll actually win anywhere, but Utah is his best shot. New Mexico, Colorado, and Alaska are other possibilities.

New Mexico isn't the same state it was when it elected Johnson, and he only got 3.55% there in 2012.

Johnson 2016 looks like a much stronger effort than Johnson 2012 though, and New Mexico hasn't changed that much; voting patterns have changed more than demographics, in light of the Republican Party's collapse with Latinos over the last 10 years. It went from 42% to 46% Hispanic origin from 2000 to 2010, and from 67% to 68% white overall (which suggests lots of the new Hispanics are white Hispanics, who once upon a time were likelier to vote Republican).
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2016, 09:59:23 PM »

Montana? Wyoming? South Dakota?
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2016, 10:13:59 PM »

my guess is WY, but the chance of it happening is very low.

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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2016, 10:14:54 PM »

Toss-up between Delusion and Denial.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2016, 10:31:04 PM »

Obviously they have zero chance of winning any state, but if I were them I would try to win statewide races in Wyoming and Idaho first.

In those two states, the percentage of the Democratic vote is roughly only a third of the voting population, so they could presumably win just by getting a plurality of the Republican (right-wing) vote before they even got any left-wing votes.

There's a similar situation in Utah and Nebraska's 2nd, but those states are too socially conservative and not amenable enough to the libertarian message.
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2016, 11:21:42 PM »

Also, inb4 the "none of them, libertarians are dumb hur hur" trolls

Would you like to place a monetary bet on a Libertarian victory in any state this November?
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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 11:36:11 PM »

Also, inb4 the "none of them, libertarians are dumb hur hur" trolls

Would you like to place a monetary bet on a Libertarian victory in any state this November?

No, he's mocking the "anti-libertarians," who are like AlwaysBernie in argumentative tactics.

1. Alaska
2. Wyoming/Utah
3. Idaho
4. New Mexico
5. Nevada
6. Montana
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2016, 04:01:30 AM »

Just to keep everyone on task, I will quote my OP:

"Note: you do not actually need to think that the Libs will win a state, just where do you think that, if they DID win a state, it would happen?"
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2016, 04:32:47 AM »

To win  a state they'll need at least 33% can't really see that happening. but they could get close to 20% in Alaska and Montana and get some nice numbers all around (bar for the south). I predict also 3.5-4% national vote if they run a good campaign and not only take angry GOPers but also tail some "I don't like her" Dems
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2016, 07:27:53 AM »

none of them, libertarians are dumb hur hur
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2016, 07:33:22 AM »

I guess Alaska could, but they'd be pretty stupid too. They're essentially dependent on government funding up there.
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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2016, 07:36:51 AM »

I guess Alaska could, but they'd be pretty stupid too. They're essentially dependent on government funding up there.

It is pretty ironic that Alaska is one of the most libertarian states, considering that little factoid.
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