NBC/SurveyMonkey national poll: Clinton 47% Trump 45%
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« on: May 31, 2016, 05:51:55 AM »

NBC/SurveyMonkey national poll, conducted May 23-29:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/poll-trump-hillary-clinton-223713

Clinton 47%
Trump 45%

Sanders 52%
Trump 40%
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2016, 05:54:08 AM »

Almost losing to a clown, how sad Hillary.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2016, 06:06:33 AM »

Almost losing to a clown, how sad Hillary.

Don't be ridiculous. She didn't almost lost to Sanders.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2016, 06:10:02 AM »

Does anyone really think that Hillary would be the favorite against a Kasich or even a Jeb!?
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2016, 06:12:38 AM »

Does anyone really think that Hillary would be the favorite against a Kasich or even a Jeb!?

Trump and Hillary really need each other. Against a better candidate, either of them would be toast.  But if two sh**tty candidates go in, one somehow wins.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2016, 06:15:51 AM »

Dont be silly these polls still favor Clinton with Obama 2012 map.
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2016, 08:27:33 AM »

Almost losing to a clown, how sad Hillary.

So what does that say about your guy, who she beat easily?
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016, 08:29:18 AM »

Does anyone really think that Hillary would be the favorite against a Kasich or even a Jeb!?

Er, Jeb had an even worse favorable rating than she and Trump do. I do agree she would've been the underdog against Kasich, but his favorability likely would've tanked as well in a reality where he was the presumptive nominee, just like Sanders.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 08:31:06 AM »

Junk poll.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 09:33:09 AM »

It could be due to Trump's post-nomination bump, but these close nat. polls between him and Hillary is starting to become a trend. This should be troubling for the Democrats, who I bet thought this race would be a landslide a month ago against Trump.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 10:39:38 AM »

It could be due to Trump's post-nomination bump, but these close nat. polls between him and Hillary is starting to become a trend. This should be troubling for the Democrats, who I bet thought this race would be a landslide a month ago against Trump.

Why would it be troubling? Hillary has had her worst stretch of time in a while and she still has a small but consistent edge. Her numbers will grow once Bernie is out. Not to mention, Obama and Romney were always very close in the national popular vote, but we saw what happened there: Built-in Democratic advantages took Obama over the edge. There's nothing to suggest that won't happen this time; in fact, the opposite is true, as Trump seems to have rejected data and ground-game organization outright.

If this is, on balance, what the race looks like when things are bad for Hillary, I'm more than optimistic.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 11:00:39 AM »

So what does that say about your guy, who she beat easily?

One can hardly say that Hillary beat Bernie easily. Her primary campaign was nothing short of an embarrassing indictment of the Democratic establishment's lack of imagination, in putting up a single "next in line" choice and imagining that everyone would just accept that and unquestioningly rally around her. There should have been 5-10 legitimate candidates for the primary electorate to choose from.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2016, 11:22:44 AM »

So what does that say about your guy, who she beat easily?

One can hardly say that Hillary beat Bernie easily. Her primary campaign was nothing short of an embarrassing indictment of the Democratic establishment's lack of imagination, in putting up a single "next in line" choice and imagining that everyone would just accept that and unquestioningly rally around her. There should have been 5-10 legitimate candidates for the primary electorate to choose from.

A 12 point margin of victory = easily.
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2016, 11:28:01 AM »

A 12 point margin of victory = easily.

A 12 point margin of victory against unknown socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders = embarrassing indictment.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2016, 12:37:23 PM »


That is all? Time to think of something new, man.
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2016, 01:06:16 PM »

A 12 point margin of victory = easily.

A 12 point margin of victory against unknown socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders = embarrassing indictment.

I guess you aren't going to get a real indictment so you have to invent one.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2016, 01:07:36 PM »

A 12 point margin of victory = easily.

A 12 point margin of victory against unknown socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders = embarrassing indictment.

Whatever makes you feel better about losing.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2016, 01:31:40 PM »


So what does that say about your guy, who she beat easily?

If she had beaten Bernie "easily" then she wouldn't have had to spend more money than him.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2016, 02:17:52 PM »

A 12 point margin of victory = easily.

A 12 point margin of victory against unknown socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders = embarrassing indictment.

Whatever makes you feel better about losing.

Umm....Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. Any competent Democrat would be killing it against Trump and she might actually lose. Not that the socialist Sanders would be any better. I wish someone like Biden or even Warren had run.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2016, 02:27:41 PM »

NBC/SurveyMonkey national poll, conducted May 23-29:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/poll-trump-hillary-clinton-223713

Clinton 47%
Trump 45%

Sanders 52%
Trump 40%


Anybody knows Racial Results of this Poll?
Normally NBC/SurveyMonkey used to show the Racial Results of the Poll. but this time they didn't.
Last NBC/SurveyMonkey Poll(5/16-5/22), TRUMP got 29% of Hispanics.


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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2016, 02:28:13 PM »

A 12 point margin of victory = easily.

A 12 point margin of victory against unknown socialist Senator from Vermont Bernie Sanders = embarrassing indictment.

Whatever makes you feel better about losing.

Umm....Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. Any competent Democrat would be killing it against Trump and she might actually lose. Not that the socialist Sanders would be any better. I wish someone like Biden or even Warren had run.

Ugh, you guys have such a pundit mentality sometimes. Every "white horse" candidate looks great...until they actually enter. Then after a few months of mud getting flung at them they're just another "damaged and weak" candidate. That's how campaigns work. Unless they're someone nobody bothers to fling mud at because they're no threat.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2016, 02:30:06 PM »


So what does that say about your guy, who she beat easily?

If she had beaten Bernie "easily" then she wouldn't have had to spend more money than him.

What? Sanders has significantly outspent Clinton since the beginning of the campaign.
Are you making up facts now?

Umm....Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. Any competent Democrat would be killing it against Trump and she might actually lose.

No. Democrats could nominate Mother Theresa and Republicans would still coalesce around Trump and tear her down as unacceptable.
They have been brainwashed all these years by the right wing media that any Democratic president is an illegal usurper, hellbent on destroying America, and he/she should be treated accordingly.  
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »

Does anyone really think that Hillary would be the favorite against a Kasich or even a Jeb!?

She would beat Mr. Low-energy but not Kasich. And she will lose to TRUMP.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2016, 03:52:18 PM »

Umm....Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. Any competent Democrat would be killing it against Trump and she might actually lose.

No. Democrats could nominate Mother Theresa and Republicans would still coalesce around Trump and tear her down as unacceptable.
They have been brainwashed all these years by the right wing media that any Democratic president is an illegal usurper, hellbent on destroying America, and he/she should be treated accordingly. 

So in the hypothetical world where the 22nd amendment didn't exist and Obama was running for his 3rd term, he wouldn't be doing better than Clinton? Clinton is not a very good politician. We don't know why the hell she is running.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2016, 03:56:25 PM »

Umm....Hillary is an incredibly weak candidate. Any competent Democrat would be killing it against Trump and she might actually lose.

No. Democrats could nominate Mother Theresa and Republicans would still coalesce around Trump and tear her down as unacceptable.
They have been brainwashed all these years by the right wing media that any Democratic president is an illegal usurper, hellbent on destroying America, and he/she should be treated accordingly. 

So in the hypothetical world where the 22nd amendment didn't exist and Obama was running for his 3rd term, he wouldn't be doing better than Clinton? Clinton is not a very good politician. We don't know why the hell she is running.

Obama got popular again once the right wing hate machine trained all their fire on Clinton rather than him. Remember back in 2013-2014 when she was far ahead of Obama in favorability?
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