Who wins in November?

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

I know there's been a few of these threads, but now the deal is sealed, it will be Hillary vs The Trumpster. Who wins? How would the map look?

Clinton 359
Trump 179

[Sir Mohamed]

I know there's been a few of these threads, but now the deal is sealed, it will be Hillary vs The Trumpster. Who wins? How would the map look?

Clinton 359
Trump 179

Yep, something like that. PV 52.5% vs. 45.0%

[Nyvin]

Despite all the right wing fantasies....Hillary Clinton will win.

[Bull Moose Base]

I think in a coincidence the vote here, at least where it now stands, matches what I think their chances are of winning. Hillary about 70%, Trump about 30. Disconcertingly high for President Trump but hard to put it lower 5 months out when he's one of two choices.

[Angrie]

You know, it's not always about winning or losing. It's about how you play the game.

And in some games, the best strategy is not to play. Therefore David French is the real winner of the 2016 Presidential Election.


In seriousness though.... Obviously Clinton is the strong favorite.

[Redban]

Clinton is the favorite. Trump needs to swing some tough states (e.g. Pennsylvania, Virginia, Wisconsin, or Michigan) to win. He also needs Ohio and Florida, and those two states are not guaranteed.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Pennsylvania, Virginia, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Florida.

Maybe Indiana and Illinois as well.

[MIKESOWELL]

Hillary will win by a comfortable margin. I suspect that a few republican electors may be faithless for Trump, possibly 2-4.

[Downnice]

As of right now I have it Clinton 277 Trump 261

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They key states will be

Ohio
Pennsylvania
Virginia
North Carolina
Florida

Nevada, Iowa I think are relativity safe for Clinton and and Colorado and New Hampshire is relativity safe for Trump.
 
The only way Trump wins is him taking Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida, which will be a tall order for him to do.

[Ljube]

I think in a coincidence the vote here, at least where it now stands, matches what I think their chances are of winning. Hillary about 70%, Trump about 30. Disconcertingly high for President Trump but hard to put it lower 5 months out when he's one of two choices.

The vote is 70/30, because there are 70% Dems on this forum and most of them are hacks.

[Ljube]

The country that gave 51% of the vote to Barack Obama in 2012 and is currently giving him a 50% approval rating is not going to suddenly turn around and elect his antithesis, Donald Trump, because he (Trump) "speaks his mind".

We'll see about that, Clarko. Stranger things have happened.

[Redban]

The country that gave 51% of the vote to Barack Obama in 2012 and is currently giving him a 50% approval rating is not going to suddenly turn around and elect his antithesis, Donald Trump, because he (Trump) "speaks his mind".

Obama's popularity doesn't indicate that Hillary will win. Bill Clinton was pushing 60% approval rating in 2000, yet his boy Al Gore still lost the election.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

The country that gave 51% of the vote to Barack Obama in 2012 and is currently giving him a 50% approval rating is not going to suddenly turn around and elect his antithesis, Donald Trump, because he (Trump) "speaks his mind".

Obama's popularity doesn't indicate that Hillary will win. Bill Clinton was pushing 60% approval rating in 2000, yet his boy Al Gore still lost the election.

But Clinton wasn't out there hammering Bush and lobbying for Gore, probably because his personal favorables were in the trash. This time around it's the President who has solid personal favorability and job approval, and the candidate (Hillary) that's in trouble. Obama is a great surrogate for Clinton, and most importantly Trump is viewed at least as negatively as Clinton and has no Obama figure out there to praise him and hit Hillary.

[President Johnson]

Businessman DONALD JOHN TRUMP from New York

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

Why are there so many stupid Trump supporters on this forum?

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

IT HAS BEGUN!!!

[Ogre Mage]

The country that gave 51% of the vote to Barack Obama in 2012 and is currently giving him a 50% approval rating is not going to suddenly turn around and elect his antithesis, Donald Trump, because he (Trump) "speaks his mind".

Obama's popularity doesn't indicate that Hillary will win. Bill Clinton was pushing 60% approval rating in 2000, yet his boy Al Gore still lost the election.

Gore sidelined Bill Clinton in 2000 because of the Monica Lewinsky scandal and did not embrace his legacy.  Bill's ability to campaign in that race was limited.  Hillary did not make that mistake with Obama.  She touted his record frequently during the primary and he will play a large role on the campaign trail during the general election.  And the President is raring to go.  He has a legacy to protect and is as offended by Trump as the rest of us.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Why are there so many stupid Trump supporters on this forum?

Who would have thought?