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« on: July 15, 2016, 09:43:31 AM »
« edited: July 15, 2016, 09:46:01 AM by Human »

New Haven, Connecticut (Yale):
Hillary Clinton: 57.34%
Bernie Sanders: 41.70%

Hanover, New Hampshire (Dartmouth):
Bernie Sanders: 53.04%
Hillary Clinton: 46.52%

Cambridge, Massachusetts (Harvard and MIT):
Hillary Clinton: 53.18%
Bernie Sanders: 46.20%

As you can see, Sanders had a huge Ivy League problem during the primaries.
Sanders demolished Hillary Clinton in non-Ivy college towns, but Ivy-league schools were disproportionately pro-Clinton. Hillary Clinton demolished Sanders in New Haven (Yale). She also easily won Cambridge (Harvard and MIT), and narrowly lost Hanover (Dartmouth). Dartmouth is still very pro-Clinton if you control for age. I can't find the results by town for the New Jersey primary, but Hillary Clinton most likely crushed Sanders in Princeton too. Kasich also defeated Donald Trump in most Ivy-league college towns too IIRC.

Why were Ivy Leage schools so pro-Clinton (especially when compared to other colleges)? One of the main reasons why is because a very large percentage of Ivy League graduates end up working on Wall Street. A large plurality of Ivy League grads work on Wall Street after graduation. An extremely large percentage of Ivy League grads end up working at investment banks, hedge funds, private equity/venture capital funds, or consulting firms. Most people who graduate from Ivy League law schools end up working at Wall Street law firms. Working at finance law firms tends to be significantly more lucrative than other fields of law. Bernie's constant demonization of Wall Street during the primaries didn't play well at institutions where a large plurality of students end up working on Wall Street.

You guys have to remember that the people who work on Wall Street are some of the smartest people on the planet. Most Wall Street firms recruit at top Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale. Only the best of the best get to work in fields like investment banking, venture capital, private equity, hedge funds, and management consulting.

Also, a decent chunk of Ivy League students come from upper-middle class/upper-class families, which is another explanation as to why Clinton did so well at these institutions.

A lot of these Ivy League students are also aspiring politicians. A disproportionately large percentage of our politicans attended Ivy League schools. Many of these aspiring politicans are typically staunchly pro-establishment, which also explains Clinton's performance.

I've heard that a lot of these Ivy League students start out as staunch liberals, end up working in investment banking/private equity/venture capital/hedge funds/management consulting/Wall Street law firms, move to the suburbs or places like Upper East Side, have kids, earn 6 and sometimes even 7+ figure salaries, and they either become moderate Kasich-esque Republicans or Mike Bloomberg/Jerry Brown/Bill Nelson/Andrew Cuomo/Bill Clinton-esque economically centrist/center-left "New Democrats."

A majority (but not a large majority) of Wall Street donations went to Republicans in 2012 despite the fact that most of these Wall Street bankers came from heavily Democratic colleges.

The main reason why I wanted to post this is because I want to dispel with the fiction that Ivy League schools are hyper-liberal and full of anti-establishment hippies that drool over people like Chomsky/Warren/Sanders. This is far from the truth. Ivy-league schools are very pro-establishment. Hillary did very well at Ivy League schools. She got crushed at non-Ivy League schools. A lot of these students tend to be establishment Democrats who are sick and tired of Bernie's anti-Wall Street demagoguery. Non-establishment types like Bernie and Donald Trump got crushed at Ivy-league schools.

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2016, 09:53:28 AM »

Actually Sanders appears to have done pretty well in this spots considering the demographics of students at Ivy League schools. Honestly I doubt that the student vote makes a huge impact in this communities because most undergrads vote in their hometowns, most graduate or professional students are essentially middle class highly-educated voters who are key Hillary demographics, and the non-college folks in these communities are often racial minorities who also are major Hillary supporters.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2016, 09:59:06 AM »

Actually Sanders appears to have done pretty well in this spots considering the demographics of students at Ivy League schools. Honestly I doubt that the student vote makes a huge impact in this communities because most undergrads vote in their hometowns, most graduate or professional students are essentially middle class highly-educated voters who are key Hillary demographics, and the non-college folks in these communities are often racial minorities who also are major Hillary supporters.

Well Sanders actually crushed Hillary Clinton at most college towns. Ivy-league schools are disproportionately pro-Clinton.
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2016, 01:25:25 PM »
« Edited: July 15, 2016, 01:57:47 PM by Kevin »

New Haven, Connecticut (Yale):
Hillary Clinton: 57.34%
Bernie Sanders: 41.70%

Hanover, New Hampshire (Dartmouth):
Bernie Sanders: 53.04%
Hillary Clinton: 46.52%

Cambridge, Massachusetts (Harvard and MIT):
Hillary Clinton: 53.18%
Bernie Sanders: 46.20%

As you can see, Sanders had a huge Ivy League problem during the primaries.
Sanders demolished Hillary Clinton in non-Ivy college towns, but Ivy-league schools were disproportionately pro-Clinton. Hillary Clinton demolished Sanders in New Haven (Yale). She also easily won Cambridge (Harvard and MIT), and narrowly lost Hanover (Dartmouth). Dartmouth is still very pro-Clinton if you control for age. I can't find the results by town for the New Jersey primary, but Hillary Clinton most likely crushed Sanders in Princeton too. Kasich also defeated Donald Trump in most Ivy-league college towns too IIRC.

Why were Ivy Leage schools so pro-Clinton (especially when compared to other colleges)? One of the main reasons why is because a very large percentage of Ivy League graduates end up working on Wall Street. A large plurality of Ivy League grads work on Wall Street after graduation. An extremely large percentage of Ivy League grads end up working at investment banks, hedge funds, private equity/venture capital funds, or consulting firms. Most people who graduate from Ivy League law schools end up working at Wall Street law firms. Working at finance law firms tends to be significantly more lucrative than other fields of law. Bernie's constant demonization of Wall Street during the primaries didn't play well at institutions where a large plurality of students end up working on Wall Street.

You guys have to remember that the people who work on Wall Street are some of the smartest people on the planet. Most Wall Street firms recruit at top Ivy League schools like Harvard and Yale. Only the best of the best get to work in fields like investment banking, venture capital, private equity, hedge funds, and management consulting.

Also, a decent chunk of Ivy League students come from upper-middle class/upper-class families, which is another explanation as to why Clinton did so well at these institutions.

A lot of these Ivy League students are also aspiring politicians. A disproportionately large percentage of our politicans attended Ivy League schools. Many of these aspiring politicans are typically staunchly pro-establishment, which also explains Clinton's performance.

I've heard that a lot of these Ivy League students start out as staunch liberals, end up working in investment banking/private equity/venture capital/hedge funds/management consulting/Wall Street law firms, move to the suburbs or places like Upper East Side, have kids, earn 6 and sometimes even 7+ figure salaries, and they either become moderate Kasich-esque Republicans or Mike Bloomberg/Jerry Brown/Bill Nelson/Andrew Cuomo/Bill Clinton-esque economically centrist/center-left "New Democrats."

A majority (but not a large majority) of Wall Street donations went to Republicans in 2012 despite the fact that most of these Wall Street bankers came from heavily Democratic colleges.

The main reason why I wanted to post this is because I want to dispel with the fiction that Ivy League schools are hyper-liberal and full of anti-establishment hippies that drool over people like Chomsky/Warren/Sanders. This is far from the truth. Ivy-league schools are very pro-establishment. Hillary did very well at Ivy League schools. She got crushed at non-Ivy League schools. A lot of these students tend to be establishment Democrats who are sick and tired of Bernie's anti-Wall Street demagoguery. Non-establishment types like Bernie and Donald Trump got crushed at Ivy-league schools.



Question about this results? Are they from the universites themselves or only from the towns that house them?

If only the town at large-then the results make sense for a place like New Haven(Yale) as the city is largely black and hispanic outside the university.

Likewise the same is true for many parts of Cambridge as well. Don't have any idea about the area surrounding Dartmouth though. Though I imgaine it's very white overall like the rest of New Hampshire
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2016, 01:57:21 PM »

^ The results are from the towns. If you had precinct data then you could make out the schools themselves. AFAIK campuses still aren't as pro-Bernie as you'd expect.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2016, 02:06:20 PM »

I don't consider a problem appealing to the Ivy League a problem.

I attend an essentially equivalent undergraduate institution, and can verify that the people who are 'political' in any traditional sense have very little to offer the country.

Also, New Haven is a city of 100k. To find out how he did at Yale, you'd have to look at Ward 1.
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