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Shameless Lefty Hack
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« on: June 08, 2016, 12:35:10 AM »

Hell no.

Have friends inside the campaign, it was an absolute nightmare.

There were tight operations on the state level, and the field staff were top notch. Digital obviously did a good job fundraising. A lot of the younger folks hired on to run states etc were VERY good.

But the upper levels of the campaign, especially in Comms, and the ambiguous Political/Mucky Muck/inner circle staff were a mess of backbiting, outdated strategy, and micromanagement.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2016, 12:42:01 AM »

Hell no.

Have friends inside the campaign, it was an absolute nightmare.

There were tight operations on the state level, and the field staff were top notch. Digital obviously did a good job fundraising. A lot of the younger folks hired on to run states etc were VERY good.

But the upper levels of the campaign, especially in Comms, and the ambiguous Political/Mucky Muck/inner circle staff were a mess of backbiting, outdated strategy, and micromanagement.

I buy that, and part of that blame lies on the Captain of the ship, but it's not like any top notch folks were dashing to work for Sanders.  Clinton locked all of the experienced veterans up way early.

Yeah, but he did manage to unearth some undiscovered talent in the new generation. Having volunteered with the NH staff, a lot of them are going to go very far.

And of course Revolution Messaging (his digital firm) is the hot sh**t in DC now.
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Shameless Lefty Hack
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2016, 12:45:34 AM »

Just stop already. No one thinks you're funny.

How can somebody have so little self awareness?

TBH was about to compare you.

~Happy New Hampshire Man.
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Shameless Lefty Hack
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2016, 01:06:35 AM »

I think Sanders was a very good candidate, but he ultimately ran a poor campaign.
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Shameless Lefty Hack
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2016, 01:41:00 AM »

Oh yes closing off the primary sounds like a fantastic idea. Let's NEVER consult independents on who we nominate.
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Shameless Lefty Hack
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2016, 10:44:46 AM »

However, his campaign made many strategic blunders, several caused by Sanders' own stubbornness but mostly caused by Weaver and Devine's tendency to go off-message and too many cooks in the kitchen. They thought that online fundraising and rallies could win elections (and in some they could) rather than more traditional campaign mechanics. From that perspective, it was a slapdash campaign in a nuts-and-bolts sense.

This, except he was also frighteningly traditional in numerous ways. 91 million dollars on TV ads when half his coalition didn't watch TV?

Agree that there were too many first timers, Jeff Weaver chief among them.


No, honestly. For the simple fact that he created a movement and ultimately gave that movement nothing, which is why so many of the diehards are so angry and upset right now. His movement should have been about electing more progressive legislators, instead it was all about him. Even now, he should be bowing out gracefully and working on enacting a more progressive party platform at the DNC, but he's instead staying in, talking about subverting the will of the people using the same establishment that he's been railing against for months. I just feel that when people ask about the Sanders campaign legacy years from now, there won't be much to say.

Oh come on. We all know that the 'superdelegate bid' is a transparent excuse for a platform fight at the convention, so stop disingenuously asserting that it's something it isn't.
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