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Mike Thick
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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2016, 08:03:54 AM »

Any update on whether it was domestic or international terrorism?

CNN is reporting they'll at it's being treated as domestic terror, if that helps. Seems pretty inconclusive/noncommittal, though.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2016, 08:15:11 AM »

Any update on whether it was domestic or international terrorism?

CNN is reporting they'll at it's being treated as domestic terror, if that helps. Seems pretty inconclusive/noncommittal, though.

As it should be. These types of things are often messy and unclear, people want answers etc but the most important thing is correct information. The media et al should wait.
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2016, 08:15:42 AM »

Shooter ID'd as Port St. Lucie resident and U.S. citizen Omar Mateen, born 1986. His parents are from Afghanistan.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBS12/status/741980701625569280?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2016, 08:18:25 AM »

So apparently MSNBC had a guest on who keeps insisting that this is not Islamic terror and that the victims were targeted for their "alternative and sinful" lifestyle? Is that all BS or am I missing this? I don't get MSNBC at my building so I'm left with CNN.

Any update on whether it was domestic or international terrorism?

CNN is reporting they'll at it's being treated as domestic terror, if that helps. Seems pretty inconclusive/noncommittal, though.
CNN is also reporting that the attacker had a bomb strapped on him physically. It is certainly domestic terrorism regardless if it were an Islamic or Christian radical. I don't see ISIS using one of their smuggled operatives attacking a gay bar in Orlando. I figured they go for something more symbolic.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2016, 08:34:30 AM »

Yikes, that's like the most Floridian town in Florida (lots of out of state transplants, foreclosed homes from the boom, etc). That makes the fact that he (assuming this info is correct of course) apparently became radicalized quite frightening.
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2016, 08:38:45 AM »

Shootings like this really, really hit home when it's your social community that is the victim of the attack. Thoughts and prayers for everyone affected by this Sad
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2016, 08:49:40 AM »

This is a sad day for America. My sincere condolences go out to the victims and their family and friends.
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2016, 09:04:00 AM »

Name is Omar Saddiqui Mateen
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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2016, 09:24:19 AM »

Death count up to 50!
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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2016, 09:24:27 AM »

Why do terrorists always seem to come from places I'm connected to?

My relatives live a few towns over from Port St. Lucie where Mateen is from. The same relatives live in Vero, where a handful of 9/11 hijackers lived while learning to fly-in fact, they lived down the street from my aunt's best friend.

The 9/11 hijackers in Boynton (where I'm from) lived at a hotel down the road from my house, and went to the same gym as my High School history/theology teacher. They also tried to rent a house from my other teacher who taught Christian Leadership (they refused to deal with her, and only would speak to her husband-the deal fell through, as you can imagine). My friend Stephan and his mother lived in the same apartment complex in Delray as another group.

Lastly, a few of them lived in Venice Beach, where my great-aunt lived at the time.

Anyway, sorry for this random and boring post. It was just something that I was thinking about.
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2016, 09:35:16 AM »

Can we change the title from 'incident' to something more appropriate?

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims.
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2016, 09:35:34 AM »


D:

This is now the deadliest mass shooting in American history.
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2016, 09:37:47 AM »

Third deadliest mass shooting in American history (20), behind Virginia Tech (32) and Sandy Hook (26).
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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2016, 09:41:15 AM »

This seems to me more of an anti-gay hate crime rather than a terrorist attack by some ISIS-like group.
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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2016, 09:41:40 AM »

This is a sad day for America. My sincere condolences go out to the victims and their family and friends.
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« Reply #40 on: June 12, 2016, 09:43:09 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2016, 09:44:59 AM by RR1997 »

If this is a terrorist attack by some ISIS-like group, start getting used to saying "President Donald Trump" (barfs).
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« Reply #41 on: June 12, 2016, 09:46:39 AM »

The sheer sadness I feel right now is unlike anything I've ever felt before. As a society gay people are pushed to the limits and excluded, thus we create out own places - and as we live our lives in our own places with our people, we are then attacked. I don't even know how to begin to express how angry I am at the moment.
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« Reply #42 on: June 12, 2016, 09:47:05 AM »

If this is a terrorist attack by some ISIS-like group, start getting used to saying "President Donald Trump" (barfs).

Is there any evidence for that? Because last time I checked voters trusted Clinton more to handle terrorism.
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« Reply #43 on: June 12, 2016, 09:54:56 AM »

Here is what his father says. The guy was born and raised in the US, this probably has nothing to do with terrorism.

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« Reply #44 on: June 12, 2016, 09:56:10 AM »

When I first heard about this story on the news this morning, they didn't say anything about it being an LGBT club, has that been confirmed?

This is horrible! Why didn't the police storm the place sooner? Did they honestly think they could talk him out of this? They possibly could have saved dozens of people.

Suddenly that kid with the homemade clock doesn't look so innocent anymore does he?
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« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2016, 09:57:30 AM »

It was domestic terrorism and a hate crime. The gunman was originally from New York.
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« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2016, 09:58:01 AM »

Here is what his father says. The guy was born and raised in the US, this probably has nothing to do with terrorism.


If this is true maybe we will finally have nationwide hate crime laws and more protections for LGBTQ people.
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« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2016, 09:59:07 AM »

I would avoid speculating on any possible political ramifications for the moment. Mostly for reasons of taste, you know?

Fycking awful news.
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« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2016, 09:59:28 AM »

I cant even donate blood, god damn it all
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« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2016, 10:02:02 AM »

Evan Perez of CNN was just saying that the guy rented a car just to drive to Orlando to shoot the people at the club.
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