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IceSpear
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« on: June 12, 2016, 06:40:55 PM »

I do think the left needs to address the hatred of women, gays, Western values in general, etc. that is allowed to breed within fundamentalist Islam. They certainly have no problem (correctly) calling out the Christians who do the same. Plugging your ears and singing "lalala I can't hear you!" isn't going to fix the problem. And using the "who are we to judge their culture?!" excuse is even worse.

That said, obviously banning an entire religion from entering the country would be an extremely stupid solution.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 07:09:44 PM »

Well obviously white male Christians are responsible for the most rape, considering they're the second largest group in the country after white female Christians. It's a question of proportion. And I was referring more to fundamentalist Islam in general, not a specific attack on American Muslims, which I'm sure you knew already.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2016, 12:13:15 AM »

I do think the left needs to address the hatred of women, gays, Western values in general, etc. that is allowed to breed within fundamentalist Islam. They certainly have no problem (correctly) calling out the Christians who do the same. Plugging your ears and singing "lalala I can't hear you!" isn't going to fix the problem. And using the "who are we to judge their culture?!" excuse is even worse.

The reason it hasn't happened, in my opinion - and I do believe it would have otherwise happened by now - is that the Right...doesn't know when to just shut its fycking mouth. They spew putrid accusations about every group that is different from them, and they don't bother making distinctions between the ones in those groups who are "good" versus those who are actually bad (and when they actually do, it comes across as so transparent that it's laughable).

The Left has grown completely desensitized to any of their concerns because their boy-who-cried-wolf act labels just about any minority group in this country as some sort of civilization-ender. The Left instinctively reacts against this because it's a case of "you say these things about everybody and it's usually just bigoted ramblings justifying bad treatment for the groups you naturally despise". The Right has poisoned the well too much for the Left to embrace rational positions with regards to Western values within the Right's hemisphere, because that's how our politics work.

There'll never be consensus on issues like this as long as they're flapping their gums, and they're never gonna stop flapping their gums.

Yeah, pretty much. Everything is a political football these days. Any criticism would certainly be met with: "HA! THIS IS WHY THE TOTAL AND COMPLETE SHUTDOWN IS CORRECT! YOU ADMITTED IT!" gloating.

Their boy who cried wolf nonsense is tiring. It's why Obama or Hillary could rob a bank and commit mass murder and 90% of the left would dismiss it as a right wing conspiracy. They don't seem to understand the concept of "overplaying your hand" either.
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