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« on: June 12, 2016, 10:19:25 AM »

I believe more people said they trusted Clinton on terrorism... plus this is also about gun control and hate crimes against LGBT people. I think Clinton.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 10:20:15 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2016, 10:32:17 AM by Meclazine »

Has Trump commented yet?

FoxNews.com has:

BREAKING NEWS: 50 MURDERED, 53 WOUNDED IN POSSIBLE ACT OF ISLAMIC TERROR IN ORLANDO GAY CLUB; GUNMAN KILLED BY COPS
Shooter ID'd as Omar Mateen, 29, a US citizen with Afghan ties

CBSNews.com has:

50 dead, Islamic terrorism tie eyed in Orlando gay bar shooting

That is just crazy beyond words.

Let's spin the wheel.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 10:22:56 AM »

Trump's going to frame it as a radical Islamist attack, which is wrong (probably), and that'll backfire.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 10:28:12 AM »

Trump talks about banning Muslim refugees and immigration, but this was an American citizen. What could he possibly say to make this favorable to him?
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 10:33:52 AM »

Helps Clinton. It strengthens support for gun control, and more importantly increases the salience of the issue - in the critical I-4 corridor of the critical state of Florida. It will also revive memories in places like Aurora and Columbine Colorado, in the Denver suburbs that are crucial to winning there.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 10:41:48 AM »
« Edited: June 12, 2016, 10:46:55 AM by Meclazine »

It will have an effect:

1. It has an immediate effect on the voters of Florida;
2. When Trump open's his mouth, this issue will become an electoral punching bag pretty quickly.

It's interesting to see how each candidate deals with this event.

There first comments will signal to the voter's what they will most likely be like as a President.

Trump won't fire up, but he will comment and say something most likely along the lines of radical Islam.

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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 10:42:16 AM »

It doesn't matter what the guy's motivations were. Trump will certainly use this to futher his anti-Muslim propaganda.

Given we're still 5 months away from the election day, I doubt it will have a lasting effect one way or the other.
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2016, 10:44:14 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2016, 10:47:42 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.
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« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2016, 10:49:01 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2016, 10:49:14 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.
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« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2016, 10:49:34 AM »

It depends. Has it been confirmed that the guy is a Muslim? If he is, it helps Trump; if not, it helps Clinton.
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« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2016, 10:50:08 AM »

It depends. Has it been confirmed that the guy is a Muslim? If he is, it helps Trump; if not, it helps Clinton.

Its been confirmed he's an American born Muslim.
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« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2016, 10:54:15 AM »

If he'd killed 50 straights it would help Trump.
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« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2016, 10:54:38 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.

How?

Outside of saying deport all Muslims, how could this possibly help him?
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2016, 10:57:23 AM »

It depends. Has it been confirmed that the guy is a Muslim? If he is, it helps Trump; if not, it helps Clinton.

Its been confirmed he's an American born Muslim.

Ah. If he is Muslim, then I would want to change my vote. Unfortunately that helps Trump...
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2016, 10:57:43 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.

Too many Dem hacks here.
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2016, 10:58:03 AM »

This will re-enforce peoples preconceived ideas.  The left will focus on the automatic weapon, the right on the faith of the shooter. As horrific as this incident is I don't see it as an election turning event.  
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« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2016, 10:58:54 AM »

Lol @ all the hacks voting for Clinton on the poll.

I despise Trump, but this will obviously help him immensely.

Too many Dem hacks here.

Please, Ljube. I bet you'd say this helps Trump even if the shooter was a white Trump supporter from the Deep South.
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« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2016, 10:59:33 AM »

I've said this before. Trump will win the election if Islamic terrorism keeps happening here or in Europe.
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« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2016, 11:00:00 AM »

Well the alt-Right couldn't have asked for better news. Americans are a tolerant people but we now have 15 straight years of the public being conditioned to see Muslims as the enemy in one form or another... and now this. It's not any one event. It's the drip, drip, drip. We need to see a very strong response from the American Muslim community, but I don't like the way this is headed. There's clearly a problem.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2016, 11:00:02 AM »

I want to hear Hillary and Obama speak out on this. I don't want prayers from politicians who are going to go back to doing nothing tomorrow. I want to see people try.
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2016, 11:03:11 AM »

  By focusing attention on the perceived (rightly or wrongly) dangers of immigration, or the children of immigrants, from non-western countries, I can't see how it doesn't play into the Trump narrative.  This tragedy reminds me of an article I read recently about how some in  the gay community in Paris looks to the National Front as its protector against the further Islamification of France.
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2016, 11:04:39 AM »

FWIW, I just checked r/the_donald, and they seem to be even more conceited and annoying than they usually are. They clearly think this helps them.
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2016, 11:05:00 AM »

I want to hear Hillary and Obama speak out on this. I don't want prayers from politicians who are going to go back to doing nothing tomorrow. I want to see people try.

Of course because they cant even acknowledge radical Islam.  The left has completely let Americans down.  Whats happening in france is what will happen here once the liberals have their way.    
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