Does the recent gun massacre of 50+ LGBT people in Orlando, Florida...

[Holmes]

I want to hear Hillary and Obama speak out on this. I don't want prayers from politicians who are going to go back to doing nothing tomorrow. I want to see people try.

[Holmes]

I would definitely say Trump but his tweets don't help.

This, and now he's saying Obama had a reason not to prevent this or that he was involved and is calling on him to resign... Trump is shooting himself in both feet. I mean, it's fine, and it's interesting to watch, like a train wreck. Of course his more hardcore supporters will eat it up (like the birthers ate up his attacks on Obama and his alleged birthplace), but I think the rest of Americans will be turned off.

[Holmes]

I know that this is a presidential elections board, but I f'ing hate that this thread exists.  I'm still in horror at this brutal crime against humanity, and haven't moved on to which politician can capitalize on it.

It's horrifying to admit, and I hate that I'm saying this, but... I am almost getting desensitized to it. I won't speak for anyone else. And this one has definitely hit closer to home than a lot of the others, for obvious reasons, but... it just happens way too damn often.

I had a good cry yesterday. We were targeted in a safe space during Pride. We'll move on but I won't forget.