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« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2016, 09:58:53 PM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/742911345209794560
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Clinton team calls Sanders summit a "good meeting ... very positive." Statement coming soon.
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2016, 09:59:23 PM »


I trust Hillary to do what she feels is the right thing in this case.
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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2016, 10:01:25 PM »


I trust Hillary to do what she feels is the right thing in this case.

And I with Sanders.
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« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2016, 10:08:52 PM »

Sanders: I'm Committed to Helping Clinton Defeat Trump (MSNBC)
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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2016, 10:11:05 PM »

They've both gotten in their motorcades and driven off without a word. Uh oh.

What were you expecting?

A joint press conference where Sanders drops out and endorses Clinton?

Hope springs eternal, I guess.

Too late for prime time news today and it would be already old news prime time hour tomorrow. Can expect nothing that press releases at this hour, but I fully expect a complete press conference on another day (that Sanders and Hillary agreed on and which strategists think it's a good idea, you don't want to be obscured by other news).
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« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2016, 10:15:51 PM »

Can we be done with the bickering now? The final primary is over, the Civil War between Captain America and Iron Man is done. Sanders certainly has leverage, and should at least be allowed some say in the platform, but it's reasonable for Clinton to expect him to drop out in fully endorse her (not give a half-hearted endorsement) in exchange.

Anyway, they're both intelligent people, and I trust they can figure out the best way of wrapping this up.
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« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2016, 10:17:23 PM »

All reports saying it was a very positive, constructive meeting.
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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2016, 10:25:38 PM »

Their statements are positive and similar. That can't be an accident. Hopefully they meet up a few more times in the near future.
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2016, 10:55:38 PM »

Sad, there's goes the last mainstream candidate  that cared about the people more than him/herself.
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« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2016, 11:01:17 PM »

Was jfern in attendance to try to convince Sanders to throw the neoliberal warmongering corporatist harpy hawk under the bus and to get on board the Stein Wagon?
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« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2016, 11:36:18 PM »

Sad, there's goes the last mainstream candidate  that cared about the people more than him/herself.

Untrue. There will be many more good candidates coming in the future. Bernie is just blazing a trail that others will follow. He's old, but the ones up and coming will be younger and still full of fire. You wait and see.

Us old folks are preparing to hand over the mantle soon....maybe next time around.
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« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2016, 11:47:28 PM »

I'm in DC right now, and I think I saw Sanders's motorcade leaving the meeting.
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2016, 11:53:39 PM »

I'm in DC right now, and I think I saw Sanders's motorcade leaving the meeting.

That was a pretty long meeting then!
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« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2016, 12:11:13 AM »

Wow.
There are some images coming out now, in where Sanders has a black-eye and Hillary has some of her hair missing on her left side.
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« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2016, 03:42:57 AM »

Sources close to the situation say that there was a lot of making out by candlelight in the last half hour, and that Sanders was caught ducking into his limousine in a back alley holding a big bag full of wall Street cash.
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« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2016, 04:02:27 AM »

Wow.
There are some images coming out now, in where Sanders has a black-eye and Hillary has some of her hair missing on her left side.

Must've been pulled from Hillary's unsecure servers.
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« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2016, 05:17:23 AM »

Hmm, I wonder what his demands are going to be...

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« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2016, 05:20:25 AM »

Hmm, I wonder what his demands are going to be...



Unsurprisingly, Sanders does not actually know who decides whether a primary is open or closed.

Also, nothing about caucuses. Because lowered turnout is only undemocratic when it hurts him.
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« Reply #43 on: June 15, 2016, 05:26:17 AM »

Hmm, I wonder what his demands are going to be...



Unsurprisingly, Sanders does not actually know who decides whether a primary is open or closed.

Also, nothing about undemocratic caucuses.

Theoretically, the DNC does, as it could totally penalize states that chose to have closed primaries if the DNC finally put its foot down and declared they were not going to support such.

It's such a patchwork system that I don't know if there are any cases of such, but this might pose an issue in GOP-controlled states where the system is closed and these decisions are made by the state government for both parties. I'm wondering if there are any such states, or if each party gets to make that decision in all 50 states. From state to state, there are primaries/caucuses that are run by the states, primaries/caucuses that are run by the parties, closed primaries, open primaries, states with no registration deadline, states with stringent registration deadlines, and so forth. I'm unsure whether the state parties have the ability to alter any and all of those variables unilaterally unless they completely take over their primary process from the state...which wouldn't be feasible in most cases.
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« Reply #44 on: June 15, 2016, 06:20:07 AM »

Weren't superdelegates made a thing in the response to the '68 Chicago DNC ruckus?  Pretty sure that if there weren't superdelegates, it would've happened again. 

I honestly don't care about how certain parties pick their nominee, but they should make it uniform.  The main problem is lack of choice of party.
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« Reply #45 on: June 15, 2016, 09:51:13 AM »

I'm in DC right now, and I think I saw Sanders's motorcade leaving the meeting.

That was a pretty long meeting then!

I posted this about an hour and a half after I saw it, so it probably wasn't all that long.
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« Reply #46 on: June 15, 2016, 10:41:00 AM »

If Sanders was real, he would force the dems to push more left or refuse to support hillary

Luckily, he's not real. Just a figment of our collective imaginations.
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« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2016, 01:27:38 PM »

Hmm, I wonder what his demands are going to be...



Unsurprisingly, Sanders does not actually know who decides whether a primary is open or closed.

Also, nothing about undemocratic caucuses.

Theoretically, the DNC does, as it could totally penalize states that chose to have closed primaries if the DNC finally put its foot down and declared they were not going to support such.

It's such a patchwork system that I don't know if there are any cases of such, but this might pose an issue in GOP-controlled states where the system is closed and these decisions are made by the state government for both parties. I'm wondering if there are any such states, or if each party gets to make that decision in all 50 states. From state to state, there are primaries/caucuses that are run by the states, primaries/caucuses that are run by the parties, closed primaries, open primaries, states with no registration deadline, states with stringent registration deadlines, and so forth. I'm unsure whether the state parties have the ability to alter any and all of those variables unilaterally unless they completely take over their primary process from the state...which wouldn't be feasible in most cases.
A State can not require a party to use a particular process to choose its delegates to a national convention, and a State can not require a political party to not associate with non-affiliated voters for its nominating activities, even when the State is running the primary.

Democratic Party of U.S. v. Wisconsin, (1981) No. 79-1631

Tashjian v. Republican Party of Connecticut (1986) No. 85-766

The DNC could conceivably provide sanctions for States that use closed primaries, and offer to provide legal expertise if state parties need to challenge state laws.

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