Should the monitoring of mosques be part of U.S. security activities?

[SillyAmerican]

Per a discussion on The Five (June 14th), Dr. Sebatian Gorka, author of "Defeating Jihad", makes the following comments:

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Some argue that recognizing Islamic terrorism as coming from within the Muslim community is somehow inappropriate. I do not understand why that is. If you disagree with Dr. Gorka's comments, please explain why you do...

[Green Line]

Of course it should.  The security services should be investigating every possible lead.

[Lief 🗽]

If there is evidence that a mosque is connected to terrorism in some way, then yes of course.

[Pyro]

No.

[Ljube]

If there is evidence that a mosque is connected to terrorism in some way, then yes of course.

[dead0man]

If there is evidence that a mosque is connected to terrorism in some way, then yes of course.

indeed, just like any other group connected to terrorism should be.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

They should not be exempt from standard surveillance tactics, no.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If there's probable cause and a warrant, sure--just like there should be anywhere.  But no, warrantless mass surveillance of mosques just because they're mosques would be a significantly unconstitutional overreach.

[Zioneer]

If there's probable cause and a warrant, sure--just like there should be anywhere.  But no, warrantless mass surveillance of mosques just because they're mosques would be a significantly unconstitutional overreach.

Seems like a reasonable statement.

[DemPGH]

Without doubt, of course they should be. All of them. It's an authority-driven system, and that's the center their authority. And it's only time until they figure out that they can get guns almost anywhere. Ugh.

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No (literally sane)

[YaBoyNY]

If there is evidence that a mosque is connected to terrorism in some way, then yes of course.

Pretty much this.

[ElectionsGuy]

If there is evidence that a mosque is connected to terrorism in some way, then yes of course.

indeed, just like any other group connected to terrorism should be.

Yes, we wouldn't let the Westboro Baptist Church go unmonitored would we? Why should a potential Muslim version of that be unmonitored?

[Meclazine for Israel]

I am sure the CIA already send in pretend lone wolves into some mosques to see what the honeypot reveals.

[Ban my account ffs!]

No.  If there is credible evidence of unlawful activity obtained through legal means (such as a voluntary informant), a search warrant should be procured and executed.

[Santander]

Of course.

Yes, we wouldn't let the Westboro Baptist Church go unmonitored would we? Why should a potential Muslim version of that be unmonitored?

The WBC is a single, known organization mostly limited to one extended family and is relatively harmless other than for their inflammatory speech and offensive behavior. Religious fundamentalists who plot and commit dangerous activities (e.g. FLDS) should be investigated and put under surveillance, and we should not be so politically correct as to treat mosques any differently.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

Some argue that recognizing Islamic terrorism as coming from within the Muslim community is somehow inappropriate.

Source please.

As far as I know law enforcement follows leads no matter where they take them.  And I'm glad they don't monitor every mosque simply because it is a mosque.  That would be a low yield waste of tax dollars and divert resources from where they are needed.

Most of the rapists in this country are Christian white men.  Should the FBI monitor all Christian white men?

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

Only under full fledged proof that there are suspected ties to radical groups, otherwise HELL NO.

[ag]

On the same basis as churches and sinagogues or other similar institutions. A mosque is no different from any other such place of worship.

[Santander]

Most of the rapists in this country are Christian white men.  Should the FBI monitor all Christian white men?

They don't develop rapist tendencies in church, though. (perhaps seminary... ) Most rapists are Christian white men because most rapists are men, most men are white, and most whites are Christians.

[ag]

Most of the rapists in this country are Christian white men.  Should the FBI monitor all Christian white men?

They don't develop rapist tendencies in church, though. (perhaps seminary... ) .

Ok, should the seminaries, in the absence of any further evidence of misconduct, be monitored by the FBI? I mean, there is ample evidence, that particular setting is very frequently associated with law-breaking.

[ag]

I mean, shouldn't they be monitoring everything?

Hopefully, not. At least, if the word "liberty" still means anything.

[ag]

Of course.

Yes, we wouldn't let the Westboro Baptist Church go unmonitored would we? Why should a potential Muslim version of that be unmonitored?

The WBC is a single, known organization mostly limited to one extended family and is relatively harmless other than for their inflammatory speech and offensive behavior. Religious fundamentalists who plot and commit dangerous activities (e.g. FLDS) should be investigated and put under surveillance, and we should not be so politically correct as to treat mosques any differently.

Well, mosques are not a single, known organization. Islam (at least, Sunni Islam) has no rigid hierarchy. Organizationally, mosques are as distinct between each other as are sinagogues. Same goes for their ideology: actually, Judaism is a lot more doctrinally homogeneous these days.

[Santander]

Of course.

Yes, we wouldn't let the Westboro Baptist Church go unmonitored would we? Why should a potential Muslim version of that be unmonitored?

The WBC is a single, known organization mostly limited to one extended family and is relatively harmless other than for their inflammatory speech and offensive behavior. Religious fundamentalists who plot and commit dangerous activities (e.g. FLDS) should be investigated and put under surveillance, and we should not be so politically correct as to treat mosques any differently.

Well, mosques are not a single, known organization. Islam (at least, Sunni Islam) has no rigid hierarchy. Organizationally, mosques are as distinct between each other as are sinagogues. Same goes for their ideology: actually, Judaism is a lot more doctrinally homogeneous these days.

I did not mean that all mosques should be monitored. (unconstitutional and a gross waste of resources) As you said, Islam is organized congregationally. Wherever there is any suspicion, evidence or another lead of any sort of heinous activities (e.g. child abuse, money laundering, terrorism) in any religious setting, law enforcement agencies should fully investigate and not hesitate to use any tools in doing so.

[Green Line]

We need to be monitoring that one DC mosque extra hard.  Lots of radicals coming out of there