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« on: June 16, 2016, 07:48:18 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 07:53:19 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2016, 08:24:26 AM by Stein or Johnson? »

Not yet. Stein beat Johnson only in MI and DC. (in 2012)

Face it folks, if you want to vote for a good candidate, Stein or Johnson are your only choices.
If you want to vote for one of them, do, if not don't.

You don't "have" to vote for either of the so called "major" candidates, you can and may vote howsoever you so wish and why not vote how you want to vote, rather than how you supposedly have to vote. Basically why not if you live in DC or any of the 47 safe states. If it comes down to Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Trump and unfortunately it most likely will although it doesn't actually have to, then one or more of only 3 states will decide the election, ie FL, OH, or VA. Otherwise you can vote however you want and by the way actually you still can in FL, OH, or VA because voting for Stein or Johnson is better than staying home, is it not?
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 10:35:00 AM »

Your moral compass is severely off track if you think Johnson and Stein are good candidates.
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« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2016, 11:34:19 AM »

Your moral compass is severely off track if you think Johnson and Stein are good candidates.
I disagree, obviously.

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« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2016, 11:35:03 AM »

In the U.S.?

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« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2016, 11:40:41 AM »

Yes, for sure.

Americans are expecting to elect a woman President this year,  but little do they realize that President's name will be Stein, not Clinton.

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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2016, 01:05:54 PM »

Yes, for sure.

Americans are expecting to elect a woman President this year,  but little do they realize that President's name will be Stein, not Clinton.

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2016, 01:08:45 PM »

Lol. She won't even beat Nader's scores.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2016, 03:28:55 PM »

Lol. She won't even beat Nader's scores.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2016, 03:32:01 PM »

Lol. She won't even beat Nader's Johnson 2012's scores.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2016, 03:39:39 PM »

The only time the GP will ever make any noise is if they rent their ballot space to a celebrity protest candidate.  The American Green Party does not espouse true Green principles in any kind of coherent way.  They are simply a soapbox for activists with various narrow interests to get their voices heard.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2016, 03:43:59 PM »

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2016, 03:47:34 PM »

Stein is woefully unqualified for the presidency and she comes off as a ultra-liberal hippie / environment nut.

Any extra success the GP has this November won't be based on merit, but rather people being upset by their 2 major party choices.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2016, 04:32:19 PM »

Stein will get between 0.4% of the vote and Johnson 2012. So no, the Green wave is not building and never will.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2016, 04:42:31 PM »

Do you mean this Green Wave?

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2016, 04:44:45 PM »

Stein is woefully unqualified for the presidency and she comes off as a ultra-liberal hippie / environment nut.

I have nothing against ultra-liberal environmental nuts.  Environmentalism is the most important pillar of Green politics.  But when you are supposed to be a medical doctor, and you start veering into antivax, calling for moratoria on GMOs as "unsafe", advocating homeopathic snake-oil woo medicine - things that a medical doctor should know are BS - that's not being an "environmental nut."  That's being willfully ignorant in areas where you should know better.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2016, 05:06:44 PM »

Obviously no if Green Line became Brown Line.

In fact, Goose Island has dropped the whole Green-schtick from the Green Line beer. You used to only get it in kegs or at the bar, in order to cut pollution, now they said screw it and they sell it in cans.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2016, 05:08:03 PM »
« Edited: June 16, 2016, 05:31:32 PM by Virginia »

Stein is woefully unqualified for the presidency and she comes off as a ultra-liberal hippie / environment nut.

I have nothing against ultra-liberal environmental nuts.  Environmentalism is the most important pillar of Green politics.  But when you are supposed to be a medical doctor, and you start veering into antivax, calling for moratoria on GMOs as "unsafe", advocating homeopathic snake-oil woo medicine - things that a medical doctor should know are BS - that's not being an "environmental nut."  That's being willfully ignorant in areas where you should know better.

True. I was mostly referring to the stereotype, though. You know, the no deodorant/no showers, excessively eats granola & lives-in-a-tree-type environmental activist hippie.

I hope she doesn't get any more votes, and not just because I really dislike her, but because it would only help prove to me that people either don't understand what it takes to be president, or don't care, which is insanely reckless. Who wants Jill Stein handling our foreign relations? Is she even capable of not making us look bad? She's going to run into many, many situations where she has to compromise and put aside her own beliefs for the good of the country, and I don't think she can do that.

Suffice to say, were it to come down to this, the train wreck that would be her presidency would ensure no 3rd party ever has a chance for generation(s).
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2016, 05:27:26 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2016, 05:37:24 PM »

A left wing protest party like the Green Party can never be electorally successful in the USA.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2016, 05:46:06 PM »

More voters will choose Stein than they did in 2012. Otherwise, in the short-term, probably not.

Dunno if it'll happen in the Green Party, but there's definitely an alt-left wave building.
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2016, 06:10:12 PM »

I hope she doesn't get any more votes, and not just because I really dislike her, but because it would only help prove to me that people either don't understand what it takes to be president, or don't care, which is insanely reckless. Who wants Jill Stein handling our foreign relations? Is she even capable of not making us look bad? She's going to run into many, many situations where she has to compromise and put aside her own beliefs for the good of the country, and I don't think she can do that.

Wow, Virginia, you feel about Jill Stein the way I feel about Donald Trump Wink.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2016, 06:14:32 PM »

No, there's never going to be a wave of loony leftists.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2016, 12:16:31 PM »

Not with an activist like Jill Stein at the helm.
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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2016, 01:05:18 PM »

I voted Green in 2012 and probably will again this year.  But to be honest, the vote is for the party not Stein.  She's pretty underwhelming and hasn't said or done anything to show she'd be a very good president.  She's also been pretty annoying on twitter and facebook this year.  Every post is Hillary this, two party system that, yada yada yada.

If I lived in a swing state I wouldn't vote for her.  I just want the Green party to get some votes.
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