Trump: Who Needs the Party?

[Dr. Arch]

"We have to have our Republicans either stick together or let me just do it by myself. I'll do very well. I'm going to do very well..."

Link: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/06/16/trump_vows_to_go_it_alone_130902.html

Not only does he have no ground game, he's thinking about abandoning the only entity who could help him in organizing. No compromises from Donald. It seems he's not planning to change tone on anything.

[Joe Biden is your president. Deal with it.]

#riptrumpschances

[Hermit For Peace]

This is the type of guy he is. Big ego, utterly dominating, you do it his way or else he'll take his marbles and go home. He's 70 years old now....people do not change at that age.

What you see is what you get.


BTW, that link didn't work for me.

[RINO Tom]

What a piece of shlt.  The party is not supporting him because he doesn't back the GOP's stated ideals, doesn't care about its prospects, is very blatantly sabotaging the only way forward outreach-wise (minority voters) and is spewing hate and divisiveness.

You know when Democrats accuse Republicans of being dog whistle racists because they campaign against cutting welfare or oppose busing poor kids 15 miles across town for the sake of "equality" or any other retarded thing they come up with to scare everyone?  Well, Trump is actually running a racist campaign.  This isn't ridiculous leftist hyperbole like "if you support any Republican, you're complicit in this or that terrible thing" anymore; if you are supporting Trump's campaign, you're supporting Wallace 2.0.  Some (thankfully, more than a few) Republicans have enough dignity and pride in what their party used to and should still stand for to reject Trumpism.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

retarded

Sigh. Republicans...

[Lincoln Republican]

Republicans are going to have to realize there is simply no way Trump is going to win the Presidency.

What Republicans have to do is to spend their resources and manpower on salvaging as many down ballot elections and Governor and state house elections as possible.

The Republican campaign as it now stands is in an absolute shambles, thanks to Trump and his yes men and yes women surrogates.

Trump has always ran a one man show, and the Presidential election is no different.

The party is headed for disaster.

[5280]

Republicans are going to have to realize there is simply no way Trump is going to win the Presidency.

What Republicans have to do is to spend their resources and manpower on salvaging as many down ballot elections and Governor and state house elections as possible.

The Republican campaign as it now stands is in an absolute shambles, thanks to Trump and his yes men and yes women surrogates.

Trump has always ran a o ne man show, and the Presidential election is no different.

The party is headed for disaster.

Mark Levin said on his radio show yesterday, 'the Whig-Republican party' and I certainly agree.

[TomC]

If there were ever a time delegates disregarded the will of primary voters, I'd say we're about there.

If delegates rejecting him is such a bad, undemocratic move, shouldn't more of us be upset that delegates exist at all? Shouldn't we insist there be no "wiggle room" for delegates, that the nomination votes be automatic? As a Clinton supporter, id much rather she face Trump, but how trump is dragging the GOP down is just sad. It seems like it's coming down to which group the GOP can stand to lose more. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It seems I'd rather be damned with someone approved by a majority of Republicans at least.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I like how this completely reverses his stated strategy (I.e. keep a small personal campaign and rely on existing infrastructure using his branding). Or maybe he's making a bluff, although I can't think why.

[Xing]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

[TomC]

I like how this completely reverses his stated strategy (I.e. keep a small personal campaign and rely on existing infrastructure using his branding). Or maybe he's making a bluff, although I can't think why.

The money. He wants to control the money and his branding.

[TomC]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

He pretty much took over a party single-handedly from those who have controlled it for a generation. If winning the general is the only benchmark, point made.

[DINGO Joe]

What a piece of shlt.  The party is not supporting him because he doesn't back the GOP's stated ideals, doesn't care about its prospects, is very blatantly sabotaging the only way forward outreach-wise (minority voters) and is spewing hate and divisiveness.

You know when Democrats accuse Republicans of being dog whistle racists because they campaign against cutting welfare or oppose busing poor kids 15 miles across town for the sake of "equality" or any other retarded thing they come up with to scare everyone?  Well, Trump is actually running a racist campaign.  This isn't ridiculous leftist hyperbole like "if you support any Republican, you're complicit in this or that terrible thing" anymore; if you are supporting Trump's campaign, you're supporting Wallace 2.0.  Some (thankfully, more than a few) Republicans have enough dignity and pride in what their party used to and should still stand for to reject Trumpism.

The hate for WV is strong in this one.

(Insert Darth Vadar breathing sounds)

[publicunofficial]

Everyone should read that Politico article on Trump's relationship with the RNC. My favorite highlight is where an RNC representative gave Trump a list of 20 major donors to call, and Trump called 2 of them and then gave up entirely.

[Wells]

Who needs to win elections?

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

He pretty much took over a party single-handedly from those who have controlled it for a generation. If winning the general is the only benchmark, point made.

The articles about how Trump is a political/promotional genius, and he's conned his way and will continue to con his way straight to the White House, remind me a lot of the "Jar-Jar Sith Lord" theory that was bandied about last winter.  No, Jar-Jar is not evil-Yoda-in-disguise practicing drunken-master kung-fu.  He's just a clown.  Ditto with Trump.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LibRNYJmZ-I

[President Johnson]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

How? He knocked out 16 other candidates without ever running seriously for anything. And he will also knock out the Hill.

I just can't wait to see all the media hacks reacting on the night of November 8, when it is announces that the 45th President's name will be Donald John Trump.

[Hammy]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

How? He knocked out 16 other candidates without ever running seriously for anything. And he will also knock out the Hill.

I just can't wait to see all the media hacks reacting on the night of November 8, when it is announces that the 45th President's name will be Donald John Trump.

Again with saying beating 16 candidates is a strength--this wasn't an elimination tournament where you go one on one--you had 16 candidates saying the same thing, gathering a total of 60% of the vote, where Trump running essentially on the outsider platform got 40%. Had this been a two way race it's unlikely he would've been nominated, similarly to how Sanders would've very likely been nominated if he had 16 Dem opponents.

[Xing]

Yeah, he cleared a very divided Republican field, that's certainly something. Winning a Republican primary and winning a general election are two very different things. His actions since winning the nomination certainly don't suggest that he really knows what he's doing. He's pretty much just doing whatever the hell he wants. That might happen to be a winning strategy, but it's certainly not a politically wise strategy.

[skoods]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

How? He knocked out 16 other candidates without ever running seriously for anything. And he will also knock out the Hill.

I just can't wait to see all the media hacks reacting on the night of November 8, when it is announces that the 45th President's name will be Donald John Trump.

You call the media hacks yet I can see some of the Donald dripping down your chin still.

[RINO Tom]

retarded

Sigh. Republicans...

If you want to chastise me for using that term, more than fair enough.

If you're suggesting Republicans use it more than anyone else on this forum, you're ... *dumb*.

[Boston Bread]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

I suspect Trump doesn't want to be president. If he wanted to win he would have run a completely different campaign.

[RINO Tom]

What a piece of shlt.  The party is not supporting him because he doesn't back the GOP's stated ideals, doesn't care about its prospects, is very blatantly sabotaging the only way forward outreach-wise (minority voters) and is spewing hate and divisiveness.

You know when Democrats accuse Republicans of being dog whistle racists because they campaign against cutting welfare or oppose busing poor kids 15 miles across town for the sake of "equality" or any other retarded thing they come up with to scare everyone?  Well, Trump is actually running a racist campaign.  This isn't ridiculous leftist hyperbole like "if you support any Republican, you're complicit in this or that terrible thing" anymore; if you are supporting Trump's campaign, you're supporting Wallace 2.0.  Some (thankfully, more than a few) Republicans have enough dignity and pride in what their party used to and should still stand for to reject Trumpism.

The hate for WV is strong in this one.

(Insert Darth Vadar breathing sounds)

LOL, one of the best Senators in DC is a Republican from WV.  I love WV Republicans and any other West Virginians who want to join the GOP, come on in if you agree with our vision.  What I don't want is to provide a haven for WV Democrats who are afraid their party isn't intolerant enough, and that's what Trump is hell bent on doing.

[Ljube]

Republicans are going to have to realize there is simply no way Trump is going to win the Presidency.

What Republicans have to do is to spend their resources and manpower on salvaging as many down ballot elections and Governor and state house elections as possible.

The Republican campaign as it now stands is in an absolute shambles, thanks to Trump and his yes men and yes women surrogates.

Trump has always ran a one man show, and the Presidential election is no different.

The party is headed for disaster.

That's a losing proposition.

I don't understand why you and the other renegades simply don't get your act together and jump on the Trump train, cause that's the only train in town.

Do you want to lose in a massive wave?

[President Johnson]

Tell me again how Little Donny here is actually a political mastermind.

How? He knocked out 16 other candidates without ever running seriously for anything. And he will also knock out the Hill.

I just can't wait to see all the media hacks reacting on the night of November 8, when it is announces that the 45th President's name will be Donald John Trump.

Again with saying beating 16 candidates is a strength--this wasn't an elimination tournament where you go one on one--you had 16 candidates saying the same thing, gathering a total of 60% of the vote, where Trump running essentially on the outsider platform got 40%. Had this been a two way race it's unlikely he would've been nominated, similarly to how Sanders would've very likely been nominated if he had 16 Dem opponents.

If you add up the votes of all outsiders (Rafael and Ben), it's easily over 50%. What do you think against which candidate TRUMP would have lost a two-way race? Mr. Low Energy? Keep also in mind that Big Don got more votes than anyone else in the GOP primary race. That's stunning for someone who never ran for office, didn't have a strong ground operation and spent almost nothing while others wasted millions of dollars and still got crushed.