Do you agree with David Plouffe that CO and VA are swing states but PA is not?

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http://www.politicspa.com/pa-increasingly-seen-as-critical-swing-state-in-november/76168/

[HillOfANight]

Seems like bravado. They are both going to contest it seriously like they did in 2008 and 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Pennsylvania,_2008#Advertising_and_visits
http://www.webcitation.org/6Bt5X4YtU

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More logical than 'muh angry NH women!1!!1!11!!1!one!1!!!'

[°Leprechaun]

I voted yes, but PA is competitive in the sense than if Clinton doesn't compete here she would lose and no she's not that stupid. I do think she has a better chance of losing CO. VA and OH could be the tipping point states, and FL as well, those are obviously more important than states with fewer electoral votes. CO and IA seem to be leaning Trump according to polls, strangely enough. If Trump doesn't surpass her in national polls some time soon she has the electoral college advantage, obviously even is she were to lose the national vote. Wouldn't that be interesting? FL could be trending Dem and that could be really bad news for Trump.

[HillOfANight]

CO and IA seem to be leaning Trump according to polls, strangely enough

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_trump_vs_clinton-5597.html
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-president-trump-vs-clinton
Clinton +4 in Iowa

http://cookpolitical.com/presidential/charts/scorecard
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-president/

There have been few recent polls in Colorado, but no one seriously thinks this state is lean Trump based on old old polls. Crystal Ball and Cook Political have it as lean D.

[NeverAgain]

I worry that the answer is no. I think she can win handily in most of the 2008 and 2012 'toss-ups', but I worry about MUH WORKING CLASS WHITES! Though seriously, I believe that Trump appeals to them more than Hillary which worries me about the Rust Belt atm.

[°Leprechaun]

CO and IA seem to be leaning Trump according to polls, strangely enough

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ia/iowa_trump_vs_clinton-5597.html
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-president-trump-vs-clinton
Clinton +4 in Iowa

http://cookpolitical.com/presidential/charts/scorecard
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2016-president/

There have been few recent polls in Colorado, but no one seriously thinks this state is lean Trump based on old old polls. Crystal Ball and Cook Political have it as lean D.

electoral-vote.com is very pro Clinton and anti-Sanders:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2016/Pres/Maps/Jun16.html#item-3

[HillOfANight]

They are just copying Politico's article, and they're using an odd mix of polls to say the least. Plus that article was written before PPP's latest IA poll.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/battleground-states-clinton-trump-224202

If we are relying on an ancient poll to say that Trump is leading Colorado, we also have to assume Clinton will win Kansas

[°Leprechaun]

You're right that there have been very few polls, so we really don't know, but I said seem to be leaning to Trump. Certainly polls this early can be a little off. They will go up and down a lot and even can be wrong as early as a week before the election. Of course, polls are never 100% accurate and there is always a margin for error, but they haven't been wrong about who will win since Dewey defeated Truman.