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« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2016, 09:23:27 PM »


My rampage is NOT over, though.
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« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2016, 09:24:03 PM »


I have no doubt of this.
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« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2016, 09:30:44 PM »


I will go on till everybody around here has the taste of urine on their lips.
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« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2016, 09:36:57 PM »

lol @ this thread
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« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2016, 09:41:42 PM »


I am, actually, crying out in despair.
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« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2016, 09:42:39 PM »

Honestly, it could have been worst. There are a lot of servers out there who would have done something more subtle, like spitting in the customer's food. Not serving them is the least of what they could have done.
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« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2016, 09:43:44 PM »

Honestly, it could have been worst. There are a lot of servers out there who would have done something more subtle, like spitting in the customer's food. Not serving them is the least of what they could have done.

How many times do I have to repeat in this thread? The proper response is pissing into food, not spitting.
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« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2016, 12:12:27 AM »

Things they so willingly overlooked or even downright supported when it came from Trump.

I can't believe you are taking yourself seriously.  Trump is a wild card and is ignorant of the way government works, but I have no knowledge of him ever asking anyone not to serve anyone fast food based on their political ideologies or anything else

Angus, slow down there. I never said Trump supported denying people fast food, or whatever you're saying? My point was that Trump has been acting like a bigot and saying racist things for a long time now, which have gotten a lot of attention, and yet so many of his supporters are willing to overlook it or even support it in some cases. I never said that the women in question here support it, but if they don't, then they are certainly giving him a free pass on the racist bs he has said/done. I don't care what Trump's platform is or what he offers these people, he either is a racist or he just acts like one when he finds it useful, both of which are bad.

I wouldn't be voting for Clinton if she acted/said the things Trump has, and so I don't look kindly on people who give him a pass on this, then complain when those people find themselves being singled out. They didn't care when Trump did it, but now they care when it involves them? That's hypocritical as hell.

Look, angus, you put a lot of words in my mouth there. The least you could have done before going on that spiel is ask me to clarify. And I didn't say I supported this act of discrimination. I don't, and I made that clear in my first post.

It may be hard for you to believe, but there was a time when people who supported different candidates, and indeed different political ideologies, to get along with one another.  I can remember being a junior in college and my best friend at the time, Wolfgang, was a big Bush supporter and I supported Dukakis.  We weren't casual supporters either.  He had a Bush sign in his apartment window and I went out of my way to meet with VP candidate Lloyd Bentsen and Rob Lowe, an actor touring with Lloyd Bentsen.  I actually introduced them to a rally of about 500 students.  Did I think Wolfgang was a little weird and misguided?  Of course.  Did he think the same of me?  Of course.  Did we call each other names and scream at each other and think, "oh, if only you were smart you'd agree with me."  We did not. 

Even now, the one of my colleagues with whom I am closest personally is a supporter of Hillary Clinton.  I think she has a criminal psychology and she creeps me out.  She will probably start World War III.  I can't imagine voting for her for any office.  Ever.  Does that make me think my colleague is somehow an evil creep?  No.  We agree on many things, and often have discussions.  We even discuss politics, and we do so civilly.  Of course we both think Trump is also creepy so I suppose that helps, but we can discuss Clinton and her many flaws civilly as well. 

It is not defensible, and it is not normal, and it is not healthy to see these two women as anything other than victims of harassment.  They are not hypocrits, at least not based on the fact that they happen to support a candidate that you cannot stand.  They were discriminated against unfairly.  Whether or not the employee should have been fired is another issue, maybe worthy of debate, but I totally support the manager's decision and I'm fairly confident that I would have made the same decision. 

I know you're young, and your ideology is still developing and will for years to come, but based on your many prescient posts I'd have thought you were smarter than to try to spin this as anything other than what it is:  customers treated rudely by an unruly employee with a holier-than-thou attitude.


Angus, Trump is a racist and a bigot. He is running a bigoted campaign. Since George Wallace, no one has run such a campaign. It is not fair to compare him to Bush or Dukakis or Romney. He is a whole different beast. Campaigns like his should not be accepted by the rest of us.

I'm not sure anyone said anything about accepting his campaign.  I think the objection is more about needlessly, uselessly, and irrationally treating people like sh**t during a business transaction.

Trying to convince people of the odiousness and immorality of Trump's speech and proposals and committing to having respect for other people aren't logically exclusive.

My response was more to Angus's post rather than this situation. I agree that they should have been treated with some modicum of respect as long as they weren't acting obnoxious either. They are there to do a job and they should do it no matter what the customer is wearing with a few exceptions (profanity or klan costume (Trump gear is close but not crossing that line)).
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« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2016, 03:27:23 AM »

Not unconstitutional in the slightest.
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« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2016, 08:02:07 AM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.
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« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2016, 09:11:23 AM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley
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« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2016, 09:18:29 AM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."
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« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2016, 09:20:14 AM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley
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« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2016, 09:22:03 AM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley

Jesus also said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."  That's incumbent on me, regardless of whether or not it's incumbent on you.
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« Reply #89 on: June 18, 2016, 09:26:48 AM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley

Jesus also said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."  That's incumbent on me, regardless of whether or not it's incumbent on you.

If you Trump supporters did so regarding Hispanics and Muslims, we wouldn't be in this situation today.
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« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2016, 09:27:01 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2016, 09:29:04 AM by ag »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley

Jesus also said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."  That's incumbent on me, regardless of whether or not it's incumbent on you.

It would have been highly offensive if you, indeed, loved me Smiley However, Since I do not believe you are capable of love, or even know what it is, I am not concerned Smiley Whenever you try to immitate love, you can only produce hate.  Irrespective of your views about the teachings of some ancient yeshiva dropout Smiley
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« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2016, 09:59:52 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2016, 10:01:43 AM by RFayette »

This thread is just another reason November can't come soon enough.  Probably the worst part of politics is how much differences of opinion can make people hate one another - sometimes makes me think humans really aren't ready for democracy.
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« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2016, 12:14:36 PM »

This thread is just another reason November can't come soon enough.  Probably the worst part of politics is how much differences of opinion can make people hate one another - sometimes makes me think humans really aren't ready for democracy.

This is not just going to be there till November. This is how it will be for the foreseeable future. Trump has sentenced all of us to take piss with our burgers.
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« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2016, 12:21:41 PM »

Why? it contributes more with all it's flaws than locking it.
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« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2016, 12:26:01 PM »

Why? it contributes more with all it's flaws than locking it.

How?  Other than spoiling lunch?
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« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2016, 12:29:24 PM »

Why? it contributes more with all it's flaws than locking it.

How?  Other than spoiling lunch?


Do not talk about politics at lunch. It will always be spoiled.

I have a very serious point here. Trump has changed American politics in a very certain way, for a very long long time. Sorry, if you do not like the taste and the smell.
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« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2016, 03:11:49 PM »

Generally speaking, business-owners are going to not throw their livelihoods under the bus over ideological hysteria.

Historically, we have ample evidence to the contrary.

     And how did it turn out for those folks? Curious, since I am not sure what evidence you have in mind here.
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« Reply #97 on: June 18, 2016, 03:29:28 PM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley

Jesus also said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."  That's incumbent on me, regardless of whether or not it's incumbent on you.

If you Trump supporters did so regarding Hispanics and Muslims, we wouldn't be in this situation today.

That I love my neighbor does not mean that my neighbor ought to be free of the consequences of his/her actions.

If someone breaks the law of our nation, there are penalties for that.  I might forgive them, not actively hate them, etc., but absolution is not mine to give.  There are penalties for breaking our immigration laws, and that penalty is deportation.  Those laws are not the edict of some despot; they are the statutes crafted by our elected representatives.  And these laws are not unreasonable by the standards of the world.  Illegal immigrants are not responsible for all the economic and public safety ills of all of America, but porous borders and lax enforcement are the reason Trans-National gang members are able to go back and forth from the US to Mexico and other countries, do the business of foreign drug cartels in American cities and towns, engage in human trafficking both into and out of the United States, and engage in acts of violence, often on behalf of foreign drug cartel leaders.  Not all Hispanics are in that category, but those who are in that category are OVERWHELMINGLY illegal immigrants, many of them escorted through Mexico from Central America to the US with the complicity of the Mexican Government.

Is what I posted here true?  If it is, does it rise to the level of racism or xenophobia? 

Not all Muslims are terrorist sympathizers.  But a significant number of Muslims in America are not overly perturbed by acts of terrorism by Jihadist groups.  Whenever there is a terrorist attack, it seems as if the first concerns of Muslim groups is to point out how Islam is Peace, Muslims are peace-loving, and the real problem is anti-Muslim bigotry.  And it is through the immigration process that those Muslim fanatics who have wrought the most havoc have come here through the immigration process.

Is what I posted above true?  If it is true, is some sort of major adjustment as to what our immigrations policies are something that is needed and appropriate?

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« Reply #98 on: June 18, 2016, 04:31:07 PM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley

Jesus also said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."  That's incumbent on me, regardless of whether or not it's incumbent on you.

It would have been highly offensive if you, indeed, loved me Smiley However, Since I do not believe you are capable of love, or even know what it is, I am not concerned Smiley Whenever you try to immitate love, you can only produce hate.  Irrespective of your views about the teachings of some ancient yeshiva dropout Smiley

Who are you to say whether someone you barely know is capable of love and who isn't?   
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« Reply #99 on: June 18, 2016, 09:22:42 PM »

What you do in these situations is spit in their food without them knowing. That would have been the appropriate response.

This is disgusting ! Why would you even say this ?
Because liberals can hate at the same levels as conservatives.

Sure. I, for one, enjoy hating you Smiley

Jesus instructed his believers:  "Love your enemies."

 I am a Jewish atheist Smiley

Jesus also said "Love thy neighbor as thyself."  That's incumbent on me, regardless of whether or not it's incumbent on you.

It would have been highly offensive if you, indeed, loved me Smiley However, Since I do not believe you are capable of love, or even know what it is, I am not concerned Smiley Whenever you try to immitate love, you can only produce hate.  Irrespective of your views about the teachings of some ancient yeshiva dropout Smiley

Who are you to say whether someone you barely know is capable of love and who isn't?   

No person capable of love would ever have a good word to say about Donald Trump. By definition, any feeling of a Trump supporter is hate.
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