1001 - Signed into Law

[Clark Kent]

As it appears that the 24-hour extension has now passed, Representatives have 72 hours to vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN on this bill.

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neigh

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

nay

[Classic Conservative]

Aye

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Aye

[Clark Kent]

AYE

[NeverAgain]

After much contemplation, I believe that I cannot vote for this bill in its current form.

NAY

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

the working people of egypt, mr. conservative, elected the muslim brotherhood to power in their most recent democratic elections, in case you haven't forgotten.

So? What does it matter whether or not the group was elected to office? I would hardly consider a functioning democracy one that elects groups committed to extreme fundamentalism to the point of wanting to blow countries off the map and exterminate groups of people. The fact that such groups win elections in some places, is not a mark of legitimacy on said groups, but in fact is an exemplary reason why democracy depends on strong education and a substantially more secular world view (at least to the point of not wanting to "Vote" a disliked group out of existence)".

Whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood wins an election is irrelevant. Hamas has won elections in the Palestinian terrorities and that doesn't make them any less of a terrorist group. The key here is the outlook of the Muslim Brotherhood and the tactices they are employing to bring it about.

because the reaganite/kissingerite tradition of deposing democracies we don't like has yielded absolutely terrible results in the past, maybe…?

Those are different situations. An election that elects a terrorist group is not a democracy.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[Former Senator Haslam2020]

AYE

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

the working people of egypt, mr. conservative, elected the muslim brotherhood to power in their most recent democratic elections, in case you haven't forgotten.

So? What does it matter whether or not the group was elected to office? I would hardly consider a functioning democracy one that elects groups committed to extreme fundamentalism to the point of wanting to blow countries off the map and exterminate groups of people. The fact that such groups win elections in some places, is not a mark of legitimacy on said groups, but in fact is an exemplary reason why democracy depends on strong education and a substantially more secular world view (at least to the point of not wanting to "Vote" a disliked group out of existence)".

Whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood wins an election is irrelevant. Hamas has won elections in the Palestinian terrorities and that doesn't make them any less of a terrorist group. The key here is the outlook of the Muslim Brotherhood and the tactices they are employing to bring it about.

because the reaganite/kissingerite tradition of deposing democracies we don't like has yielded absolutely terrible results in the past, maybe…?

Those are different situations. An election that elects a terrorist group is not a democracy.

that's a questionable assertion. and i'm sure the same argument was made about, e.g., chile – that an election that elects communists is not a democracy.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

the working people of egypt, mr. conservative, elected the muslim brotherhood to power in their most recent democratic elections, in case you haven't forgotten.

So? What does it matter whether or not the group was elected to office? I would hardly consider a functioning democracy one that elects groups committed to extreme fundamentalism to the point of wanting to blow countries off the map and exterminate groups of people. The fact that such groups win elections in some places, is not a mark of legitimacy on said groups, but in fact is an exemplary reason why democracy depends on strong education and a substantially more secular world view (at least to the point of not wanting to "Vote" a disliked group out of existence)".

Whether or not the Muslim Brotherhood wins an election is irrelevant. Hamas has won elections in the Palestinian terrorities and that doesn't make them any less of a terrorist group. The key here is the outlook of the Muslim Brotherhood and the tactices they are employing to bring it about.

because the reaganite/kissingerite tradition of deposing democracies we don't like has yielded absolutely terrible results in the past, maybe…?

Those are different situations. An election that elects a terrorist group is not a democracy.

that's a questionable assertion. and i'm sure the same argument was made about, e.g., chile – that an election that elects communists is not a democracy.

Just because someone makes the same arguement for the wrong reasons, doesn't make it it incorrect for me to make it for the right reasons.

[Clark Kent]

This bill has enough votes to pass. Representatives have 24 hours to change their votes, if they wish.

[Clark Kent]

Alright, this bill has passed.

[Lumine]

Bump.

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I'm unsure if this is my responsibility (if not I apologize to the Speaker), but it's been a while since the President offered a redraft of this particular bill and it originated in the House. The President has offered the following presidential redraft:

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[Clark Kent]

Thank you, Mr. Vice President. We will have a period of debate lasting 72-hours barring any objections.

[Clark Kent]

Seeing as how there has been no debate and no objections, we will now move to a 72-hour final vote on the redraft.

[Clark Kent]

AYE

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

certainly better than the previous turd, although putting c.c. on the committee is lol

abstain

[Classic Conservative]

certainly better than the previous turd, although putting c.c. on the committee is lol

abstain

Then putting Blair is lol, because he's partisan towards the other side.

AYE

[Clark Kent]

The redraft passes with, uh, two AYES and one abstention.

[Clark Kent]

The Conference Committee has voted to pass the Senate version:

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Representatives have 72 hours to vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.

[Clark Kent]

AYE

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

abstain

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

What happens at the end of the investigation?  Does it come back before the Congress for a vote?