Will Donald Trump still be a candidate for president by mid-July?
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2016, 10:50:57 PM »

Yes, unless he really was a Clinton plant all along.

Which would be hilarious.
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2016, 10:54:55 PM »

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The majority of the GOP voted against Trump. So there's no suspension of democracy whatsoever.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2016, 11:01:11 PM »

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The majority of the GOP voted against Trump. So there's no suspension of democracy whatsoever.
But it's never been done before in the modern era of radio and TV.  Maybe ever.
To see it even attempted would be historic.  These conventions are supposed to be planned out, scripted coronations. 
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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2016, 11:10:16 PM »

I thought this was a necroed thread from 2015.
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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2016, 11:13:14 PM »

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The majority of the GOP voted against Trump. So there's no suspension of democracy whatsoever.
But it's never been done before in the modern era of radio and TV.  Maybe ever.
To see it even attempted would be historic.  These conventions are supposed to be planned out, scripted coronations. 

Not quite. DNC '68, RNC '76 spring to mind.
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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2016, 12:31:49 AM »

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It's happened before in the RNC in 1976. Hardly unprecedented.
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2016, 09:44:34 AM »

Obviously, yes.

I think that some GOP elites have actually given up this election. The damage is done already, and while nuking Drumpf at the convention may bring back more moderate voters, they would lose his base by a large margin.
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2016, 10:06:12 AM »

Yes. Like it or not, he won the most delegates fair and square (actually more than fair and square, because he won in spite of the delegate games of the Establishment and the Cruz Campaign). Suspending the rules and staging a convention coup would not only be highly undemocratic, and much of the public wouldn't understand how it was legal, and would probably result in literal blood in the streets.
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2016, 10:16:37 AM »

Unless the Koch Brothers and their buddies buy him out for an exorbitant sum of money, yes.
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2016, 10:47:16 AM »

The Trump Deniers never quit, do they?

To stop Trump at the convention, the GOP would have to suspend democracy in a seamy way that would enrage Trump's followers and probably ensure that Trump voters don't vote Republican in November. 

Truthfully, the way for Republicans to get through this is to (A) shut their mouths, (B) allow Father Time to put distance between themselves and their intense criticisms of Trump, and (C) get on with the business of getting re-elected.

If they can't do this, it's because Trump has touched THEIR third rails.  Free Trade.  Neocon Interventionism.  Unfettered Illegal Immigration (i. e. Cheap Labor).  Hillary will give them all these things; they have to make the partisan noise, but they'll get what they want from Hillary.  Not so with Trump, and what frustrates them is that he's THEIR party's presumptive nominee.

God damn it, NO THEY WILL NOT.  The idea that Hillary is basically a Republican on business interests issues only comes from cultural conservatives who think anyone who seems to educated and intellectual is threatening and therefore must be elitist in every way imaginable or far left psychos who don't think Hillary's sufficiently liberal record isn't sufficient enough.

Hillary Clinton is a standard liberal Democrat who has taken AT LEAST as much of a protectionist stance as Donald Trump.  Even if you think she has zero values of her own and is a sellout, she has now been forced to exclusively sell out to Democratic constituents to win the nomination, and she'll need them to come out strong for her should she seek reelection.  And those voters do NOT want free trade.
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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2016, 11:41:29 AM »

If they can't do this, it's because Trump has touched THEIR third rails.  Free Trade.  Neocon Interventionism.  Unfettered Illegal Immigration (i. e. Cheap Labor).  Hillary will give them all these things; they have to make the partisan noise, but they'll get what they want from Hillary.  Not so with Trump, and what frustrates them is that he's THEIR party's presumptive nominee.

God damn it, NO THEY WILL NOT.  The idea that Hillary is basically a Republican on business interests issues only comes from cultural conservatives who think anyone who seems to educated and intellectual is threatening and therefore must be elitist in every way imaginable or far left psychos who don't think Hillary's sufficiently liberal record isn't sufficient enough.

"But, muh crony capitalism!!"

No, I'd say this idea comes first and foremost from progressive critique of the DLC/DNC, who have been complaining about this since Bill Clinton first came to power.  The Republicans just like to use it to divide and conquer Democratic voters.
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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2016, 12:02:07 PM »

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The majority of the GOP voted against Trump. So there's no suspension of democracy whatsoever.

Um...~43% of the GOP voting for Trump vs ~27% of the GOP voting for Ted Cruz is a pretty substantial lead over second place. If you think there's no suspension of democracy in allowing a guy with well over 2/5ths of the party who nearly doubled his nearest rival to win, how about the suspension of democracy involved with allowing literally anyone else to win?
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