Is it too late for Trump to reverse his crashing poll numbers?
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2016, 02:14:45 PM »

Of course not. Just look at Truman 1948, Ford 1976, Reagan 1980 or Poppy Bush 1988.
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2016, 02:19:37 PM »

The damage is done. Sorry, Donald.
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« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2016, 02:22:12 PM »

Of course not. Just look at Truman 1948, Ford 1976, Reagan 1980 or Poppy Bush 1988.

None of those elections had engendered as much bitterness, negativity, or media coverage this far out as this one has. Perhaps more importantly, they occurred in a different time when there were many more persuadable voters and party identification didn't correlate as closely with ideology.
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« Reply #28 on: June 20, 2016, 03:21:05 PM »

Too much time left, to many things can happen.

Remember Dukakis had a double-digits lead over GHWB until summer and went on to lose handily.
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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2016, 03:35:54 PM »


June 16, 2016: Clinton 44.9
June 16, 2012: Obama 45.7
June 16, 2008: Obama 45.9
June 16, 2004: Kerry 43.7

Couldn't find a graph to compare over time, so I just compared numbers on the same day. There's not much difference - she's below both of Obama's numbers by 1% or less and is beating Kerry by 1.2%.

Glad to see that
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« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2016, 03:52:18 PM »

It's June and somehow the sky is falling on Atlas. So not shocked though.

It's a marathon, not a sprint.
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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2016, 03:53:43 PM »


June 16, 2016: Clinton 44.9
June 16, 2012: Obama 45.7
June 16, 2008: Obama 45.9
June 16, 2004: Kerry 43.7

Couldn't find a graph to compare over time, so I just compared numbers on the same day. There's not much difference - she's below both of Obama's numbers by 1% or less and is beating Kerry by 1.2%.

When is it that we should expect some clear majority polling results (in the high 40's or low 50s)?
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2016, 04:08:07 PM »


June 16, 2016: Clinton 44.9
June 16, 2012: Obama 45.7
June 16, 2008: Obama 45.9
June 16, 2004: Kerry 43.7

Couldn't find a graph to compare over time, so I just compared numbers on the same day. There's not much difference - she's below both of Obama's numbers by 1% or less and is beating Kerry by 1.2%.

When is it that we should expect some clear majority polling results (in the high 40's or low 50s)?

I'm assuming a Bernie Sanders endorsement of Hillary Clinton will come around the time of the convention, maybe before it.  So, we're going to have the following timeline of events:

1. GOP convention disaster.  I have no idea if anyone will even speak on Trump's behalf
2. Bernie goes on record as endorsing Clinton
3. DNC, which will be one giant Hillary commercial, probably featuring a speech by Bernie Sanders talking about the new progressive role in the party, probably throwing his full support behind Clinton.

If the post-convention bump doesn't put her into the low-50s, I'd be very surprised.
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2016, 05:08:57 PM »

It's less a question of "is it too late" and more a question of "does he have the wherewithal, discipline, and forethought to turn it around?" From what I've observed of him so far, the answer to that is a resounding no.
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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2016, 06:06:50 PM »


This.

Absolutely not. Clinton is a terrible candidate who does not excite a large percentage of her base; meanwhile, Trump excites the 25-40% who have been with him since the beginning, plus the other 40-50% of the Party who is galvanized against Clinton. This election could swing in Trump's favor at any moment. If Democrats cared enough to defeat Trump, they would have nominated Bernie Sanders. That said, demographics still favor Clinton and it is entirely possible that she will ultimately succeed in November; in fact, I put her chances at success around 60%.

The people who scream loudest aren't the base. She beat him handily, so clearly the base preferred her. And as the polls show, Democrats are galvanized against Trump as well.
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« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2016, 12:25:52 PM »

Nope

The election is 5 months away. Donald Trump can reverse his polling numbers in 5 months.
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« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2016, 02:02:18 PM »

Nope

The election is 5 months away. Donald Trump can reverse his polling numbers in 5 months.

Anything is possible, except that Trump cannot change his basic personality, which most people around the country cannot stand. True Hillary has historic negative poll numbers as well, but not near what Trump has earned for himself.

A 70 yr-old man changing the way he's been operating for 70 years is near impossible. He's trying to play the game by his rules and those don't seem to be going very well at the moment. He's an old dog and likely going to stay that way.
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2017, 01:36:25 PM »


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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2017, 07:38:03 PM »

Nope

The election is 5 months away. Donald Trump can reverse his polling numbers in 5 months.

Anything is possible, except that Trump cannot change his basic personality, which most people around the country cannot stand. True Hillary has historic negative poll numbers as well, but not near what Trump has earned for himself.

A 70 yr-old man changing the way he's been operating for 70 years is near impossible. He's trying to play the game by his rules and those don't seem to be going very well at the moment. He's an old dog and likely going to stay that way.

Trump has done two (2) things better than you or I.  He's SURVIVED.  And he's WON.  Surviving and Winning; Hillary has only done one out of two.  (Bill did the winning; she gets minimal credit for Bill's victories, IMO.)

If you're 70 years old and you're a SURVIVOR and a WINNER, why would you change?  That question is more pointed given how events have gone over time.
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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2017, 09:15:54 PM »

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