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« on: June 20, 2016, 12:30:56 PM »

Exclude scenarios such as an indictment or other extraneous factors such as health issues, assassination, etc. Base it on demographics and other factors.
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« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2016, 12:37:23 PM »

A major terror attack (on the scale of 9/11) that Trump responds to in a way that isn't incredibly offensive and stupid (no "I called it"s).
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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2016, 12:41:50 PM »

Trump moves to the center, crushes Hillary in the debates.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2016, 12:42:26 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2016, 12:46:20 PM by Mallow »

A Trump-voter whose current prediction has Trump winning the general election, and who, judging by his "conservative" cultural score in his signature, probably thinks I shouldn't be allowed to marry, is trying to get Democrats to tell him how Clinton can "lose" the election? Without resorting to invoking "new" events? And you expect serious responses?
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2016, 12:48:22 PM »

Outlandish Ideas

- Sanders runs third party.

- Bill is caught sleeping with Melania Trump.

- Every minority voter in America decides to go to Acapulco during election week.


More Realistic Ideas

- Voter ID Laws prevent new Latino voters from exercising their rights to vote and hinders the experience for existing minority voters to the point where they won't wait hours in line in an election with two unlikeable candidates. This becomes even more prudent if the race is not a close one; less motivation to wait in line could cause a Dewey-Truman surprise.

- Voting machine irregularities.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2016, 01:12:57 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2016, 01:23:14 PM by Virginia »

Things Trump must do -

1. Immediately begin raising massive amounts of cash and building a competent campaign. Saturate the airwaves with high-quality ads

2. No more idiotic screw-ups, racist tirades or other classic Trump shenanigans. He keeps pulling attention to his drama and it's not helping him. For example, the IG's report on Clinton's email issues should have been used to bury her under criticism this month, yet Trump completely sucked up all attention with racism and other stupid comments.

3. Make this election a referendum on Clinton's indiscretions, rather than what it currently appears to be heading towards: A referendum on Trump and his bs. #1 and especially #2 are important for this


In short - Trump needs to reinvent himself and stop attracting negative attention. He could have easily avoided the problems that are currently dogging his campaign just by listening to strategists, actually raising money and most importantly, keeping his trap shut
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2016, 01:19:38 PM »

Focusing solely on things within Clinton's control:

1. Clinton makes the election solely about defeating Trump, and Trump's negatives, with no positive narrative about herself.

2. She backtracks and equivocates on the TPP and fracking.

3. She rises to Trump's baiting, and comes off as combative and defensive.

4. She dismisses the policy suggestions of Bernie Sanders and the progressive camp, and takes a centrist, establishment line.  Also, she selects a centrist running mate.

5. She fails to tie her campaign to the successes of the Obama administration.

6. She is unable to deflect questions about her handling of Benghazi and her email server.
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« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2016, 01:28:28 PM »

Just continue the campaign she's running right now and she'll lose (not even talking about an indictment). She's a weak candidate and has no idea how to conter The Donald. I posted it already, but that video explains why and how.
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 01:34:31 PM »
« Edited: June 20, 2016, 01:40:39 PM by Human »

I'm not a Democrat, but I am a Clinton supporter, so I'll answer.

1. A recession happens. A recession could possibly happen this year because the Chinese housing may collapse due to a phenomenon known as Ghost Cities. If the Chinese housing bubble pops, it would most likely pull the whole entire world into a recession. Keep in mind that a recession is pretty unlikely to happen this year, but it's certainly a possibility.

2. A 911-style terrorist attacks happens. This could happen.

3. Donald Trump runs an excellent campaign and crushes Hillary in the debates. This could happen as well.

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2016, 01:38:41 PM »

Things Trump must do -

1. Immediately begin raising massive amounts of cash and building a competent campaign. Saturate the airwaves with high-quality ads

2. No more idiotic screw-ups, racist tirades or other classic Trump shenanigans. He keeps pulling attention to his drama and it's not helping him. For example, the IG's report on Clinton's email issues should have been used to bury her under criticism this month, yet Trump completely sucked up all attention with racism and other stupid comments.

3. Make this election a referendum on Clinton's indiscretions, rather than what it currently appears to be heading towards: A referendum on Trump and his bs. #1 and especially #2 are important for this


In short - Trump needs to reinvent himself and stop attracting negative attention. He could have easily avoided the problems that are currently dogging his campaign just by listening to strategists, actually raising money and most importantly, keeping his trap shut

There's the problem right there. He can't. He's 70 years old and set in his ways. It's who he is and how he operates. You can't teach an old dog new tricks. Not that dog, anyway.

End of story.
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« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 01:57:03 PM »

Just continue the campaign she's running right now and she'll lose (not even talking about an indictment). She's a weak candidate and has no idea how to conter The Donald. I posted it already, but that video explains why and how.

Ah yes.  I refer to this as the "Jar-Jar Sith Lord" theory of Donald Trump.  Just as ridiculous when applied to Trump as Binks.  The Donald is not a drunken master.
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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 03:20:12 PM »

Outlandish Ideas

- Sanders runs third party.

- Bill is caught sleeping with Melania Trump.

- Every minority voter in America decides to go to Acapulco during election week.


More Realistic Ideas

- Voter ID Laws prevent new Latino voters from exercising their rights to vote and hinders the experience for existing minority voters to the point where they won't wait hours in line in an election with two unlikeable candidates. This becomes even more prudent if the race is not a close one; less motivation to wait in line could cause a Dewey-Truman surprise.

- Voting machine irregularities.

This would probably help Hillary.  Trump's supporters would see Bill as the alpha male and vote for Hillary with the rationale that Big Dog Bill will be the real POTUS.  Trump, not being able to handle the blow to his ego, would probably kill himself.  This would cause the GOP to nominate a Romney/Kristol ticket, and we all know how successful that would be.
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2016, 05:47:26 PM »

An increase in white turnout and a decrease in minority turnout.
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