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« on: June 21, 2016, 12:05:41 PM »
I say some of it
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM »
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 05:37:59 PM »
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.


Was the middle better when the ottoman empire controlled it essentially
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« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2016, 05:40:57 PM »
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question

Agreed. Is OP suggesting the takeover of soverign nations in the Middle East and the Balkans? If so that is not only stupid, but is also dangerous to world safety.
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2016, 05:43:27 PM »
Quote from: Moderate Hero on June 22, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.


Was the middle better when the ottoman empire controlled it essentially

That's a completely different question, though.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2016, 05:46:23 PM »
Quote from: a.scott on June 22, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Moderate Hero on June 22, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.


Was the middle better when the ottoman empire controlled it essentially

That's a completely different question, though.

Indeed. The answer is yes IMO, or at the very least things were far more stable back then, but trying to wind back the clock by recreating the Ottoman Empire won't work. Modern Turkey is a completely different beast than the Ottoman Empire.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2016, 07:32:36 PM »
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:46:23 PM
Quote from: a.scott on June 22, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Moderate Hero on June 22, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.


Was the middle better when the ottoman empire controlled it essentially

That's a completely different question, though.

Indeed. The answer is yes IMO, or at the very least things were far more stable back then, but trying to wind back the clock by recreating the Ottoman Empire won't work. Modern Turkey is a completely different beast than the Ottoman Empire.

I mean, there's a reason the Ottoman Empire fell in the first place.
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« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 07:36:39 PM »
No, don't want them controlling more Armenians, Kurds, etc.
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« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2016, 07:41:31 PM »
No, but especially not with Erdogan.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2016, 08:44:09 PM »
No (with or without the AKP)
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2016, 09:38:18 PM »
Byzantium should regain its 1203 borders.
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2016, 11:54:24 PM »
Quote from: a.scott on June 22, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Moderate Hero on June 22, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.


Was the middle better when the ottoman empire controlled it essentially

That's a completely different question, though.

Its framed in the same way should germany go back to pre 1945 borders or mongolia its pre 1279 borders
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2016, 11:59:21 PM »
Quote from: Moderate Hero on June 22, 2016, 11:54:24 PM
Quote from: a.scott on June 22, 2016, 05:43:27 PM
Quote from: Moderate Hero on June 22, 2016, 05:37:59 PM
Quote from: bagelman on June 22, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
I don't understand the point of this question. Honestly, Turkey should be further reduced in size.


Was the middle better when the ottoman empire controlled it essentially

That's a completely different question, though.

Its framed in the same way should germany go back to pre 1945 borders or mongolia its pre 1279 borders

But you just implied your original question was predicated on the assumption that social/political conditions would revert to the way they were in the Middle East if the Ottoman Empire were re-established.  Which doesn't make sense.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 01:22:12 AM »
Can we just do one of these on Sumer and be done with it?
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« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 05:15:27 AM »
Quote from: mencken on June 22, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
Byzantium should regain its 1203 borders.
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 12:52:31 AM »
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 03:55:08 AM »
No, but it should regain its 1920-1923 borders.
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