Trump accused of raping 13-year-old in federal lawsuit

[Wells]

I hear there is an attorney named Hillary Rodham who is very good at sliming child rape victims.

but hillary

[President of the great nation of 🏳️‍⚧️]

I hear there is an attorney named Hillary Rodham who is very good at sliming child rape victims.

but hillary

[136or142]

I say we establish a House subcommittee to look into this for the next four years.

That sounds like a good idea, but what about 2017's Benghazi hearings? Mr. Gowdy will surely have his hands full!

Gowdy can do what he likes when he's in the minority.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I hear there is an attorney named Hillary Rodham who is very good at sliming child rape victims.

This isn't "Give a jfern style response" thread.

[Cory]

It's just too easy to say this stuff. There has to be some sort of proof to substantiate their claims.

Don't let the SJW's on college campuses hear you say that.

[Fuzzy Stands With His Friend, Chairman Sanchez]

Innocent until proven guilty. I'm rather sceptical about "sudden revelations" popping out during the election season.

Yeah, as I said before with Bill, accusations based purely on he-said/she-said against powerful and high-profile individuals really should be taken with a grain of salt. There are strong reasons to believe that there are ulterior motives for one reason or another, and that also applies to Trump. Perhaps even more, given how much he has offended virtually everyone but white males.

It's just too easy to say this stuff. There has to be some sort of proof to substantiate their claims.

And yet, the allegations against Hillary Clinton aren't held to this same standard.

What allegations are you talking about?

If you are talking about the e-mail issue, this is under current Federal investigation.  It's well documented, and not something that popped up out of the blue.

If you are talking about the 24 years of sleaze (Whitewater, Bill's Accusers, Benghazi, Vince Foster, the Rose Law Firm, the White House Travel Office firings) people have made their minds up about all of this, one way or the other.  The facts aren't in dispute on any of this.

In all of these matters, Hillary Clinton did not violate any criminal laws.  In all of these matters, Hillary behaved secretively, and in a manner that in no way reflected an appreciation for the public's desire for openness and candor, or the Biblical admonition to avoid not only impropriety, but the very appearance of impropriety.  She can't admit fault in anything, and that quality ought to be troubling to voters (not that Trump has cornered the market on humility).  Unlike many who can't admit fault (including, oddly enough, Trump), she deliberately tries to conceal, manipulate, and avoid events to escape being portrayed in a negative light.  It's the kind of character that led to Nixon obstructing justice in the Watergate scandal when he didn't really have to.  Nixon's vanity caused him to punt away plausible deniability in Watergate, and Hillary's vanity is of that type. 

And Hillary Clinton is ruthless in ways that Obama has never been.  Hillary Clinton, the hero of the Feminist Left, is the candidate for President who has run smear campaigns against women who have accused Bill Clinton of sexual impropriety.  She's the orchestrator of the "Nuts and Sluts" campaign drummed up to discredit Bill's accusers; behavior that would NEVER be tolerated from a male candidate, even a male who was a liberal Democrat with a pro-feminist record in office.  The term for this is "incongruence"; a disconnect between your publicly stated positions and beliefs and your actual persona.  While I agree that "authenticity" is often an overrated quality in public officials, there is an expectation of congruence (alignment of public and private personas) from our leaders and folks are not wrong to be uneasy when that is lacking.

[136or142]

Innocent until proven guilty. I'm rather sceptical about "sudden revelations" popping out during the election season.

Yeah, as I said before with Bill, accusations based purely on he-said/she-said against powerful and high-profile individuals really should be taken with a grain of salt. There are strong reasons to believe that there are ulterior motives for one reason or another, and that also applies to Trump. Perhaps even more, given how much he has offended virtually everyone but white males.

It's just too easy to say this stuff. There has to be some sort of proof to substantiate their claims.

And yet, the allegations against Hillary Clinton aren't held to this same standard.

If you are talking about the 24 years of sleaze (Whitewater, Bill's Accusers, Benghazi, Vince Foster, the Rose Law Firm, the White House Travel Office firings) people have made their minds up about all of this, one way or the other.  The facts aren't in dispute on any of this.

In all of these matters, Hillary Clinton did not violate any criminal laws.  In all of these matters, Hillary behaved secretively, and in a manner that in no way reflected an appreciation for the public's desire for openness and candor, or the Biblical admonition to avoid not only impropriety, but the very appearance of impropriety. 

I think that is fair and I've written many of the same things myself, but I don't think that's what most people who don't like Hillary Clinton believe about her.  I think in general, they believe, to use the most extreme case, that she had something to do with the 'murder' of Vince Foster.

[MK]

My attitude towards rape accusations is that both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So I'm not going to assume Trump did this, but I'm not going to disparage the accuser either.

Except in cases like Bill Cosby where it's obvious what the truth is.

Because your a racist.

[136or142]

My attitude towards rape accusations is that both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So I'm not going to assume Trump did this, but I'm not going to disparage the accuser either.

Except in cases like Bill Cosby where it's obvious what the truth is.

Because your a racist.

Are you being sarcastic?

[Vega]

Trump and Clinton are oddly the main people that Epstein sticks to. Nobody brought him up when Jon Huntsman was running, despite his ties.

[MK]

My attitude towards rape accusations is that both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So I'm not going to assume Trump did this, but I'm not going to disparage the accuser either.

Except in cases like Bill Cosby where it's obvious what the truth is.

Because your a racist.

Are you being sarcastic?

Not meant to be sarcastic.   But it is interesting that the left show their true racist tendencies when people like cosby or oj are mentioned in allegations.  

That post highlights that.  Read what he said.

[LLR]

My attitude towards rape accusations is that both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So I'm not going to assume Trump did this, but I'm not going to disparage the accuser either.

Except in cases like Bill Cosby where it's obvious what the truth is.

Because your a racist.

Are you being sarcastic?

Not meant to be sarcastic.   But it is interesting that the left show their true racist tendencies when people like cosby or oj are mentioned in allegations.  

That post highlights that.  Read what he said.

Yeah, leftists are the ones who are racists on issues like Flint, police brutality, illegal immigration... The list goes on.

[Deblano]

Look, as Trump would say, "someone's doing the raping"

[pbrower2a]

Likely a false story.

[Hermit For Peace]

This is disgusting and undoubtedly made up.

And I'd like to add, this thread gives me the creeps.

[RI]

Let's say for the sake of argument that this came out to be true. How bad would it get for Trump? If it came out before the convention, how would the GOP react? If after?

[Figueira]

My attitude towards rape accusations is that both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So I'm not going to assume Trump did this, but I'm not going to disparage the accuser either.

Except in cases like Bill Cosby where it's obvious what the truth is.

Because your a racist.

Are you being sarcastic?

Not meant to be sarcastic.   But it is interesting that the left show their true racist tendencies when people like cosby or oj are mentioned in allegations.  

That post highlights that.  Read what he said.

Cosby was accused by multiple people, with no evidence that they were lying. I think it's pretty safe to say that he's guilty.

[Fuzzy Stands With His Friend, Chairman Sanchez]

Let's say for the sake of argument that this came out to be true. How bad would it get for Trump? If it came out before the convention, how would the GOP react? If after?

If it came out to be credible, the GOP would find a way to dump Trump.

If they couldn't do that, it would make one wonder what Trump had on GOP pols.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Innocent until proven guilty. I'm rather sceptical about "sudden revelations" popping out during the election season.

Yeah, as I said before with Bill, accusations based purely on he-said/she-said against powerful and high-profile individuals really should be taken with a grain of salt. There are strong reasons to believe that there are ulterior motives for one reason or another, and that also applies to Trump. Perhaps even more, given how much he has offended virtually everyone but white males.

It's just too easy to say this stuff. There has to be some sort of proof to substantiate their claims.

And yet, the allegations against Hillary Clinton aren't held to this same standard.

If you are talking about the 24 years of sleaze (Whitewater, Bill's Accusers, Benghazi, Vince Foster, the Rose Law Firm, the White House Travel Office firings) people have made their minds up about all of this, one way or the other.  The facts aren't in dispute on any of this.

In all of these matters, Hillary Clinton did not violate any criminal laws.  In all of these matters, Hillary behaved secretively, and in a manner that in no way reflected an appreciation for the public's desire for openness and candor, or the Biblical admonition to avoid not only impropriety, but the very appearance of impropriety. 

I think that is fair and I've written many of the same things myself, but I don't think that's what most people who don't like Hillary Clinton believe about her.  I think in general, they believe, to use the most extreme case, that she had something to do with the 'murder' of Vince Foster.

Yes, and Trump is a mafioso thug.

[MasterJedi]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

[RJEvans]

It's pretty clear the media is ignoring this. I really don't think this is legit (yet), but I won't be surprised if we see the media cover this after the conventions.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

It's pretty clear the media is ignoring this. I really don't think this is legit (yet), but I won't be surprised if we see the media cover this after the conventions.

Kind of pointless. Epstein is connected to literally everyone. Prince Andrew was named by her too. Did Sinatra rape her? Maybe Lois Frankel? How about Don King? Don Pardo? Pretty sure all of those people have been to the Epstein mansion. These allegations are absurd; Epstein is a pedophile, certainly. It's well known down here that he sought out young girls for him to molest. But the torture chambers, rape islands, involvement of major international figures, etc, is the delusions of one traumatized molestation victim currently living in a flophouse.

You know why the media isn't covering this? Bill Clinton took 20+ flights with Epstein on his private jet to his personal rape island. That has been confirmed by flight logs.

[ProudModerate2]

As seen over New Year's Day Rose Parade 2016 in Pasadena, California.
Skywriting spells out "TRUMP IS DISGUSTING" ....

[MasterJedi]

Whether this rape is true it's basically confirmed that he raped his ex wife and a former business partners wife. Settled both of them so it's not hard to believe he did it this time or many more. Disgusting filth that man.