Will the electoral college look more like Clinton 92 or Obama 2012?
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« on: August 07, 2016, 09:26:48 PM »
« edited: August 07, 2016, 09:29:28 PM by #TheShadowyAbyss »

With the possibility of Hillary winning some deep red states this election, do you think the electoral college will end up looking more like Obama '12 or Clinton '92?
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2016, 09:34:44 PM »

Probably Obama '12 at this point, unless Trump's campaign keeps collapsing.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2016, 09:39:48 PM »

Obama 2012, but personally I would say it will look closer to Obama 2008 (AZ or GA instead of IN).
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2016, 09:46:37 PM »

Well the difference between 2012 and 1992 is basically just NC, GA and AZ.  So if she wins those three, she about matches Bill's 1992 performance.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2016, 09:51:04 PM »

In terms of the individual states it should be much more like Obama 2012: losing Appalachia while winning Virginia and hopefully Florida. The EV total could be close to the Clinton 1992 total if Hillary winds up flipping Georgia, Arizona, or both.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2016, 10:00:17 PM »

375 Clinton, so closer to Clinton '92.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2016, 10:10:09 PM »

In terms of number, it's slightly more likely to be closer to Obama 2012. North Carolina and Arizona are the only states that look like they aren't a longshot, and that ends Clinton with 358. But Arizona in my view is more likely to go for Trump so that ends Clinton with 347.

But in terms of states won, definitely Obama 2012.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2016, 10:15:21 PM »

If we're talking about individual states, easily Obama '12, since Hillary's very likely to win VA, and could also win FL, NC, and possibly even AZ, while she'll definitely lose AR, LA, TN, KY, WV, and probably MO. In terms of margin, probably Obama '12, though if Trump tanks even more, it might be close to Clinton '92.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2016, 10:17:07 PM »

Is this a joke?

In 1992 Bill won Montana, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia while losing Florida and Virginia.

Hillary's map currently stands at Obama 2012 + NC + maybe AZ/GA.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2016, 10:47:12 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2016, 11:22:56 PM »

Depends on the Johnson effect. If he gets into at least 1 debate and he starts polling in the 20s, you could get a Nixon 68 map. It also depends on how the Trump camp tries to bounce back.



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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2016, 11:58:05 PM »

By numbers: Clinton '92
By map: Obama '12
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2016, 12:19:45 AM »

Obama 2012 + AZ,GA and NC
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2016, 01:03:05 AM »

Clinton '92 as she is on the high end.
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2016, 10:40:20 AM »
« Edited: August 08, 2016, 10:42:59 AM by elcorazon »

It will look like Reagan '80 (not the map, but the popular vote) Hillary = Reagan; Trump = Carter; Johnson = Anderson
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2016, 02:58:12 PM »


thats closer to 96 Bill who won 379 electoral votes
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« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2016, 03:01:24 PM »

It will look like Reagan '80 (not the map, but the popular vote) Hillary = Reagan; Trump = Carter; Johnson = Anderson

This, although I wouldn't be totally surprised if the electoral numbers ended up looking similar as well.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2016, 04:38:01 PM »

It will look like Reagan '80 (not the map, but the popular vote) Hillary = Reagan; Trump = Carter; Johnson = Anderson

This, although I wouldn't be totally surprised if the electoral numbers ended up looking similar as well.

Reagan won 489-49 it wont even come close to that
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« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2016, 07:02:39 PM »

Definitely Obama 2012. A lot of the states that Bill Clinton won in 1992 (AR, LA, MT, WV) are firmly in the Republican column now just like some Republican states at the time (VA, NC) could be won by Clinton in this election. The electoral map looks different than it did over 20 years ago.
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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2016, 06:30:59 AM »

It should be more like a 1950s Dwight Eisenhower.

(Re: The thread’s two-mentioned elections—I anticipate Hillary Clinton will exceed the electoral-vote scores of both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.)

Obama 2008 +

AZ
GA
KS
MO
MT
NE
ND
SC
TX
UT

Now that would look like an Eisenhower win.
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