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« on: June 24, 2016, 02:44:58 AM »
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Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 03:12:04 AM »
Buh-bye, Hameron.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 10:16:00 AM »
A Fox and a Crabb are standing, seriously; the latter on a ticket with Javid. Osborne has ruled himself out (shock!) and Jeremy CHunt is considering. Theresa May likely to stand. Meanwhile Boris and Gove apparently had breakfast with Lynton Crosby this morning.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 10:52:23 AM »
the conservatives risk losing a large chunk of their base to ukip if they elect may or crabb
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 11:25:50 AM »
Crabb is basically the candidate for people who are on the right-wing of the party but nevertheless backed Remain?
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2016, 09:52:40 PM »
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on June 28, 2016, 11:25:50 AM
Crabb is basically the candidate for people who are on the right-wing of the party but nevertheless backed Remain?

Reading what he has to say in the Torygraph, he appears to be running as a conciliatory option. Reading between the lines, yeah, that seems accurate.
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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2016, 07:36:22 PM »
I think Liam Fox or Boris Johnson wins. Crabb would be a good PM, but he may be too young.
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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2016, 08:23:04 PM »
Quote from: bronz4141 on June 29, 2016, 07:36:22 PM
I think Liam Fox or Boris Johnson wins. Crabb would be a good PM, but he may be too young.

He's the same age as Cameron was in 2010.
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 03:25:14 AM »
Quote from: Poo-tee-weet? on June 29, 2016, 08:23:04 PM
Quote from: bronz4141 on June 29, 2016, 07:36:22 PM
I think Liam Fox or Boris Johnson wins. Crabb would be a good PM, but he may be too young.

He's the same age as Cameron was in 2010.

Well I suspect that's his point. Wink

Anyway, Michael Gove is standing after all. As is one of the leading lights of the Leave campaign - Andrea Leadsom.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 03:33:07 AM »
Looks like Gove's email was leaked last night by his own team/ As always has been a good week to learn the art of political plotting
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 04:07:52 AM »
How is Liam Fox's political career still alive?
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 04:29:57 AM »
Gove really twisted the knife into Boris.......I wouldn't be surprised if Boris sits this out now.

Also, Michael Fallon might enter.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 05:55:59 AM »
Called it - Boris is out.
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 05:56:06 AM »
Boris is wussing out... so it's May v Gove.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 06:04:49 AM »
I like how according to this, Boris Johnson was running for 9 minutes.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/30/brexit-live-theresa-may-and-boris-johnson-set-to-announce-leadership-bids
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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2016, 06:05:27 AM »
What is betrayal by Gove.  Feels like Brown-Blair 1994 only it is not clear at all Gove will win.  Most likely he will not.
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2016, 06:06:52 AM »
GBP jumps on news that Boris will not run.  Not clear to me why.  Perhaps the feeling is that May has a lock now ?
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2016, 06:12:44 AM »
I understand May is loathed amongst certain sections of the membership.
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2016, 06:18:22 AM »
How beautiful to see this whole mess blow up in Johnson's face. Serves him well. He'll curse the day he turned coats for Leave.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2016, 06:21:56 AM »
I guess May is the best choice for the CON electoral prospects.  A Eurosceptic that was part of the Stay campaign.  That way she is not weighed down by the unfulfilled promises of the Leave campaign yet can carry out a Leave policy and pull in UKIP votes. 
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« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2016, 06:58:55 AM »
« Edited: June 30, 2016, 07:07:10 AM by Adam T »
Michael Gove's most recent major public statement was "people in this country have had enough of experts."

Reminds me of this from the 1980s British T.V Show "Yes, MInister"

From the episode "The Greasy Pole"

Chair of the British Chemical Corporation Sir Walley (a public company that may or may not exist): "I tell you as a chemist myself that metadioxin is utterly safe" (apparently there is no such chemical compound)

Minister Hacker: "Why do you experts always think you're right?"

Chair Sir Walley: "And why do you think that the more inexpert you are the more likely you are to be right?"
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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2016, 07:19:34 AM »
Looks like May is going to make it to final two.  At-least going by tally of MP support.  Wonder who the other one is going to be.
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2016, 07:21:07 AM »
Why isn't Boris running? Something to do with Michael Gove's e-mail? People need to stop being vague.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2016, 07:27:23 AM »
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on June 30, 2016, 07:21:07 AM
Why isn't Boris running? Something to do with Michael Gove's e-mail? People need to stop being vague.

It went further than that - Gove out and out said a few hours ago that Boris would make a crap leader. Boris then saw the numbers in the parliamentary party ebb away from him and so he pulled out.
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2016, 07:33:45 AM »
Quote from: Phony Moderate on June 30, 2016, 07:27:23 AM
Quote from: Famous Mortimer on June 30, 2016, 07:21:07 AM
Why isn't Boris running? Something to do with Michael Gove's e-mail? People need to stop being vague.

It went further than that - Gove out and out said a few hours ago that Boris would make a crap leader. Boris then saw the numbers in the parliamentary party ebb away from him and so he pulled out.

So, Gove claims to be an expert in who would and wouldn't be a capable leader?
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