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« Reply #100 on: July 07, 2016, 10:51:41 AM »

The campaign to paint Andrea Leadsom as some kind of mad headbanger is pretty silly tbh.
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« Reply #101 on: July 07, 2016, 11:01:01 AM »

Leadsom's Euroscepticism is more in tune with the Conservative Party membership.

If she performs well during the forthcoming campaign (and it's a big if) I think she'll win.
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« Reply #102 on: July 07, 2016, 12:20:41 PM »

Both of these women are in many ways more objectionable from a left/liberal POV than the metropolitan liberal Boris btw.
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« Reply #103 on: July 07, 2016, 12:27:20 PM »

Both of these women are in many ways more objectionable from a left/liberal POV than the metropolitan liberal Boris btw.

Or Gove for that matter.

I could tolerate May, apart from her immigration policy she's relatively similar to Cameron's legacy. Leadsom is UKIP
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« Reply #104 on: July 07, 2016, 02:23:02 PM »

Leadsome is Redwood in a dress.
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« Reply #105 on: July 07, 2016, 02:27:23 PM »


It's a Tory leadership election, yes.
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« Reply #106 on: July 07, 2016, 04:57:51 PM »

I could tolerate May, apart from her immigration policy she's relatively similar to Cameron's legacy.

She has more of a reputation of not being too keen on civil rights.
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« Reply #107 on: July 07, 2016, 06:03:18 PM »

Having Leadsome win a GE due to Labour's shambolic state would be a catastrophe, a national deadlock from the 20s
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« Reply #108 on: July 07, 2016, 06:12:10 PM »

In a normal situation I'd be amused that the Tory base will almost certainly make the worst choice and pivot off the limits off electability to match us, but the fact that Leadsom will be our PM till 2020 and is probably going to immensely screw up the Article 5 nomination (including Nargle The Fargle being included in the official negotions and the serious consideration of just trading with the EU under WTO rules) is just too much.

Well, you know it's not just your country that's getting screwed up here, no?

I have acquaintances and friends who work in companies (foodstuffs) exporting to the UK who are worried about their jobs at the moment because of sterling plunging off a cliff.
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« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2016, 02:22:18 AM »
« Edited: July 08, 2016, 02:27:24 AM by Simfan34 »

Its ridiculous that May can win 60%+ of MPs and still potentially lose to Leadsom. I don't think any candidate has ever won a majority of MPs in prior Tory leadership elections under this format; it's absurd to think that both Government and Opposition could end up with leaders who have been roundly rejected by their parliamentary parties. Leadsom should drop out, and immense pressure should be placed upon her to do so until she does (although May would best avoid getting directly involved). There should at least be a push to have a "consultative" final round.
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« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2016, 05:24:28 AM »

In a normal situation I'd be amused that the Tory base will almost certainly make the worst choice and pivot off the limits off electability to match us, but the fact that Leadsom will be our PM till 2020 and is probably going to immensely screw up the Article 5 nomination (including Nargle The Fargle being included in the official negotions and the serious consideration of just trading with the EU under WTO rules) is just too much.

Well, you know it's not just your country that's getting screwed up here, no?

I have acquaintances and friends who work in companies (foodstuffs) exporting to the UK who are worried about their jobs at the moment because of sterling plunging off a cliff.

well we've ed your country over for centuries, it's no surprise we continue to do so.

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« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2016, 06:08:03 AM »

You know this field is bad when 1. Johnson would've been a better option than all of them other than maybe Crabb and 2. you wish May is the next PM.
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« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2016, 06:19:01 AM »

In different circumstances the genuine wet Anna Soubry would have probably gone for it.
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« Reply #113 on: July 08, 2016, 10:56:38 AM »
« Edited: July 08, 2016, 10:58:18 AM by ObserverIE »

In a normal situation I'd be amused that the Tory base will almost certainly make the worst choice and pivot off the limits off electability to match us, but the fact that Leadsom will be our PM till 2020 and is probably going to immensely screw up the Article 5 nomination (including Nargle The Fargle being included in the official negotions and the serious consideration of just trading with the EU under WTO rules) is just too much.

Well, you know it's not just your country that's getting screwed up here, no?

I have acquaintances and friends who work in companies (foodstuffs) exporting to the UK who are worried about their jobs at the moment because of sterling plunging off a cliff.

well we've ed your country over for centuries, it's no surprise we continue to do so.



Indeed (not you personally, I hasten to add). I'd imagine there's a pretty strong correlation between the Leave vote and anti-Irish sentiment (and indeed anti-X sentiment in general, for all values of X not white, English-speaking, and nominally Protestant). We might view it as the Ulsterisation of English and Welsh politics.
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« Reply #114 on: July 08, 2016, 12:05:56 PM »

In a normal situation I'd be amused that the Tory base will almost certainly make the worst choice and pivot off the limits off electability to match us, but the fact that Leadsom will be our PM till 2020 and is probably going to immensely screw up the Article 5 nomination (including Nargle The Fargle being included in the official negotions and the serious consideration of just trading with the EU under WTO rules) is just too much.

Well, you know it's not just your country that's getting screwed up here, no?

I have acquaintances and friends who work in companies (foodstuffs) exporting to the UK who are worried about their jobs at the moment because of sterling plunging off a cliff.

well we've ed your country over for centuries, it's no surprise we continue to do so.



Indeed (not you personally, I hasten to add). I'd imagine there's a pretty strong correlation between the Leave vote and anti-Irish sentiment (and indeed anti-X sentiment in general, for all values of X not white, English-speaking, and nominally Protestant). We might view it as the Ulsterisation of English and Welsh politics.

On this point, it's interesting to note that Merseyside was the only ceremonial county in the North and Midlands to vote Remain.
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« Reply #115 on: July 08, 2016, 04:04:31 PM »

Class act.

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« Reply #116 on: July 08, 2016, 04:08:38 PM »

This is a flash back to classic tories- sexist slurs, and a good old fashioned sex scandal (Something the tories have been awful at, Labour had an affair every year involving someone news worthy)
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« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2016, 04:13:55 PM »

This is a flash back to classic tories- sexist slurs, and a good old fashioned sex scandal (Something the tories have been awful at, Labour had an affair every year involving someone news worthy)

British Tories are awful at many things, but sex scandals most certainly aren't one of them. Grin
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« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2016, 04:27:01 PM »

This is a flash back to classic tories- sexist slurs, and a good old fashioned sex scandal (Something the tories have been awful at, Labour had an affair every year involving someone news worthy)

You're too young. Some of us can remember the early 90s.
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« Reply #119 on: July 08, 2016, 04:41:39 PM »

This is a flash back to classic tories- sexist slurs, and a good old fashioned sex scandal (Something the tories have been awful at, Labour had an affair every year involving someone news worthy)

You're too young. Some of us can remember the early 90s.

Oh I've heard the legends (Orange in the Mouth, Chelsea kit in bed, illegitimate daughter, Major and Currie) just meant that the Cameron years have been rather sex free
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« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2016, 07:57:37 PM »

Unless piggygate counts, of course.
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« Reply #121 on: July 09, 2016, 04:06:50 AM »

Unless piggygate counts, of course.

Was fake in my opinion- Ashcroft used it to sell his book
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« Reply #122 on: July 09, 2016, 04:52:10 AM »
« Edited: July 09, 2016, 04:54:59 AM by MaxQue »

Unless piggygate counts, of course.

Was fake in my opinion- Ashcroft used it to sell his book

Can still count, even if it doesn't happened. The biggest political sexual in Quebec history after all involved events that never happened (a security guard watching pornographic videos at work was inflated by a TV network into a plan for shooting underage male pornography under the roofs of the Assembly, led by an gay Cabinet minister). That more or less destroyed his career (in fact, it's destroyed his will to continue in politics and as the Premier refused his resignation, he stole a coat in a store to force his hand in accepting it). Wierdly, said minister became a star host at that very channel less than a decade after.
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« Reply #123 on: July 09, 2016, 06:43:44 AM »

Leadsom demanded The Times to release the full audio of the interview. Dunno why cause she actually sounded worse than it seemed on the headline.
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« Reply #124 on: July 09, 2016, 07:05:54 AM »
« Edited: July 09, 2016, 08:57:59 AM by Hnv1 »

Unless piggygate counts, of course.

Was fake in my opinion- Ashcroft used it to sell his book
So why wasn't there any slander lawsuit?

anyway it seems the Tory are aiming for the "nasty party" status again
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