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« on: June 24, 2016, 09:03:48 AM »

According to some Atlas posters, this is apparently how elections work with white voters:

-All white voters are racist.
-Republicans win increasing amounts of the white vote via increasing racism.
-A candidate that runs a completely race neutral campaign will likely not overperform with the white vote, a candidate that uses all sorts of dog whistles will do better, and a candidate that skips that and just goes to blatant racism will do the best amongst the white vote.

As someone noted, by the logic of some people on Atlas, the Republicans would be best off just becoming an out and out neo-Nazi party, which would then earn them near 90% of the white vote, if your typical Atlas noob's #analysis is to be believed.
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 09:05:40 AM »

HPs through and through.
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 09:09:59 AM »

it's an exaggeration, but certainly happens more than many people would like to believe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 09:10:49 AM »

it's an exaggeration, but certainly happens more than many people would like to believe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I think anyone who seriously believes the Brexit alone now means Trump will win isn't exaggerating.
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« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 09:29:40 AM »

Very typically Atlas, sadly.

And rather racist in itself for implying that white voters will all automatically flock to neo-Nazis in elections.
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« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 11:20:23 AM »

it's an exaggeration, but certainly happens more than many people would like to believe ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What?  The vast majority here would LIKE to believe that...?  LOL
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« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 11:59:55 AM »

Very typically Atlas, sadly.

And rather racist in itself for implying that white voters will all automatically flock to neo-Nazis in elections.
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« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 01:30:01 PM »

It's an easy cop-out for people too lazy or incapable of looking at the bigger picture. Kind of like how some Republicans say Democrats only win because all they do is promise "free stuff."

Of course race plays a role, but it's more complicated than some may like to think.
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« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 02:13:52 PM »

This line of argument recognizes that racism is a problem exclusive to the white community, which is important.
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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 02:17:19 PM »

This line of argument recognizes that racism is a problem exclusive to the white community, which is important.

That's a very popular theory on college campuses, but you won't find much support in the real world on that one.
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« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 02:43:27 PM »

HP's for intellectual laziness.
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« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 03:43:12 PM »

Not nearly as bad as the people in their Minneapolis or Portland enclaves that constantly underestimate how big of a factor race is for whites outside of their progressive havens.
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« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 03:44:58 PM »

This line of argument recognizes that racism is a problem exclusive to the white community, which is important.

That's a very popular theory on college campuses, but you won't find much support in the real world on that one.

Well sure, a lot of white people stupidly believe that only other races are racist these days.
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« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 04:19:36 PM »

FF. The solution to racism is to stop being white. Tumblr told me so.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 04:27:16 PM »

Not nearly as bad as the people in their Minneapolis or Portland enclaves that constantly underestimate how big of a factor race is for whites outside of their progressive havens.

Thankfully it's not a big factor in our corner of the country, urban or not.
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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 04:27:41 PM »

I don't know where you are possibly getting this strawman from, but then again I didn't follow last night.
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 05:14:30 PM »
« Edited: June 24, 2016, 05:16:13 PM by L'exquisite Douleur »

Not nearly as bad as the people in their Minneapolis or Portland enclaves that constantly underestimate how big of a factor race is for whites outside of their progressive havens.

LOL. Someone has obviously never been to Minneapolis.

We are actually the city with the highest income disparity between whites and blacks in the country.
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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2016, 05:20:35 PM »

And for the record I was never trying to understate how much of a factor. What I'm railing against is the idea that more racist always = more appealing to whites and that there are many whites that voted for Barack Obama who are just dying to vote for Donald Trump because of his racism.

And that there are whites not yet supporting Trump with his many dog whistles but WILL if he goes openly and blatantly racist and no this isn't a strawman, people here have said things like if Trump goes openly racist he'll break 70% in West Virginia.
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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2016, 05:37:42 PM »

I always take this as a joke. They can't possibly mean that...
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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2016, 06:07:32 PM »

And for the record I was never trying to understate how much of a factor. What I'm railing against is the idea that more racist always = more appealing to whites and that there are many whites that voted for Barack Obama who are just dying to vote for Donald Trump because of his racism.

And that there are whites not yet supporting Trump with his many dog whistles but WILL if he goes openly and blatantly racist and no this isn't a strawman, people here have said things like if Trump goes openly racist he'll break 70% in West Virginia.

I made that WV comment. It was a joke, since I love making jokes at West Virginia's expense. Nevertheless, race is a major factor on why West Virginia has become a GOP stronghold.
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2016, 06:22:57 PM »

FF

99.99999% of white people are racist, and that's a fact. There are only around 15-20 non-racist white people in this whole entire country, and that's being generous. It's scientifically impossible to be a non-racist white person, with a few exceptions. The whites that voted for Obama only did so because they don't believe that the GOP is racist enough. The more blatantly racist the GOP becomes, a higher percentage of whites will vote for them. If the GOP nominee endorsed deporting every single ethnic minority out of this country, he/she would get 99% of the white vote.
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2016, 07:37:11 PM »

It was a joke, since I love making jokes at West Virginia's expense.

Too bad you're not very successfull at it Sad
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 09:48:33 PM »

And for the record I was never trying to understate how much of a factor. What I'm railing against is the idea that more racist always = more appealing to whites and that there are many whites that voted for Barack Obama who are just dying to vote for Donald Trump because of his racism.

And that there are whites not yet supporting Trump with his many dog whistles but WILL if he goes openly and blatantly racist and no this isn't a strawman, people here have said things like if Trump goes openly racist he'll break 70% in West Virginia.

I made that WV comment. It was a joke, since I love making jokes at West Virginia's expense. Nevertheless, race is a major factor on why West Virginia has become a GOP stronghold.

No, you just like being anti-working class, and your jokes are an abject faliure and classist. WV did not turn Republican because all WV's are somehow racist. Race may have played a part, but it was not the only reason.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 09:57:08 PM »

And for the record I was never trying to understate how much of a factor. What I'm railing against is the idea that more racist always = more appealing to whites and that there are many whites that voted for Barack Obama who are just dying to vote for Donald Trump because of his racism.

And that there are whites not yet supporting Trump with his many dog whistles but WILL if he goes openly and blatantly racist and no this isn't a strawman, people here have said things like if Trump goes openly racist he'll break 70% in West Virginia.

I made that WV comment. It was a joke, since I love making jokes at West Virginia's expense. Nevertheless, race is a major factor on why West Virginia has become a GOP stronghold.

No, you just like being anti-working class, and your jokes are an abject faliure and classist. WV did not turn Republican because all WV's are somehow racist. Race may have played a part, but it was not the only reason.

I guess you didn't even read the post you replied to, since I specifically stated it wasn't the only reason.
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 09:58:12 PM »

Also, another thing this forum doesn't seem to understand is that working class white people exist outside of Appalachia. Shocking, I know.
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