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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #125 on: July 21, 2016, 07:04:11 PM »

Certain past statements of his put that into question.

An interview from when he was a candidate in a by-election a decade ago in which he backed what was at the time Labour Party policy and a press release from when he was in the private sector that requires a degree of squinting to see in such terms. Actually in that by-election he put forward the classic Bevanite Left argument about the purpose of politics in his concession speech and of course in the 2010-15 parliament he was always regarded as being to the left of Miliband despite that not actually being such a hot career move (people like the Hon. Member for Streatham positively leapt in the other direction).

Meanwhile has MOMENTUM's very own James Schneider ever even voted Labour in a GE?
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« Reply #126 on: July 21, 2016, 07:05:28 PM »

Though I hear that even dear old Ann Black is BLAIRITE SCUM these days.
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« Reply #127 on: July 21, 2016, 09:44:15 PM »

I understand some of the hate for blair but labor should keep in mind he is the only labor leader to have won since the 1970s so his modernist platform has proven to be more of a vote getter than the quasi communist stance of Cornyn and Miliband
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« Reply #128 on: July 21, 2016, 10:42:28 PM »

I understand some of the hate for blair but labor should keep in mind he is the only labor leader to have won since the 1970s so his modernist platform has proven to be more of a vote getter than the quasi communist stance of Cornyn and Miliband

Miliband was hardly 'quasi-communist'.
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« Reply #129 on: July 21, 2016, 11:05:35 PM »

I understand some of the hate for blair but labor should keep in mind he is the only labor leader to have won since the 1970s so his modernist platform has proven to be more of a vote getter than the quasi communist stance of Cornyn and Miliband

Miliband was hardly 'quasi-communist'.
It's hyperbole but he was towards the left of the party to say the least
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« Reply #130 on: July 22, 2016, 12:03:34 AM »

I understand some of the hate for blair but labor should keep in mind he is the only labor leader to have won since the 1970s so his modernist platform has proven to be more of a vote getter than the quasi communist stance of Cornyn and Miliband

Miliband was hardly 'quasi-communist'.
It's hyperbole but he was towards the left of the party to say the least

Oh please. He was a center-to-center-left technocrat who appealed to the soft Left to shore him up against his awful Third Way brother.
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« Reply #131 on: July 22, 2016, 11:13:17 AM »

  Not sure where to post this question, but it will be interesting to see over the coming months/years as new candidates are selected for by-elections and the next GE whether new Tory candidates will be generally pro-Brexit, and Labour not so much?
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« Reply #132 on: July 23, 2016, 01:10:46 AM »

I understand some of the hate for blair but labor should keep in mind he is the only labor leader to have won since the 1970s so his modernist platform has proven to be more of a vote getter than the quasi communist stance of Cornyn and Miliband

What is 'Labor'?
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« Reply #133 on: July 26, 2016, 06:19:46 AM »

ICM poll published today (July 26th)
Con 43%, Lab 27%, UKIP 13%, Lib Dem 8%, SNP 4%, Green 4%, Others 1%

Forecast House of Commons: Con 375, Lab 194, SNP 45, NI Seats 18, Lib Dem 12, Plaid 4, Green 1, UKIP 1 (Con maj of 100)
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« Reply #134 on: July 26, 2016, 06:22:46 AM »

ICM poll published today (July 26th)
Con 43%, Lab 27%, UKIP 13%, Lib Dem 8%, SNP 4%, Green 4%, Others 1%

Forecast House of Commons: Con 375, Lab 194, SNP 45, NI Seats 18, Lib Dem 12, Plaid 4, Green 1, UKIP 1 (Con maj of 100)

I have to imagine this is a honeymoon bump for for May.  I am surprised how well the UKIP polling numbers are holding up.
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« Reply #135 on: August 03, 2016, 10:25:03 AM »

Labour would plunge to just 20% of the vote if the party splits, polling suggests

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/politics/opinion-polls/news/77880/labour-would-plunge-just-20-vote-if-party-splits-polling

In retrospect, maybe Labor should have aggressively backed Yes in the 2011 Alternative Vote referendum.  A Labor split would be less damaging under an AV system than a pure FPTP.   
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« Reply #136 on: August 03, 2016, 12:05:45 PM »

ICM poll published today (July 26th)
Con 43%, Lab 27%, UKIP 13%, Lib Dem 8%, SNP 4%, Green 4%, Others 1%

Forecast House of Commons: Con 375, Lab 194, SNP 45, NI Seats 18, Lib Dem 12, Plaid 4, Green 1, UKIP 1 (Con maj of 100)

I have to imagine this is a honeymoon bump for for May.  I am surprised how well the UKIP polling numbers are holding up.

I don't think that UKIP will be able to take another election where they get 12-13% and don't get more than 1 MP.
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« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2016, 12:37:59 PM »

ICM poll published today (July 26th)
Con 43%, Lab 27%, UKIP 13%, Lib Dem 8%, SNP 4%, Green 4%, Others 1%

Forecast House of Commons: Con 375, Lab 194, SNP 45, NI Seats 18, Lib Dem 12, Plaid 4, Green 1, UKIP 1 (Con maj of 100)

I have to imagine this is a honeymoon bump for for May.  I am surprised how well the UKIP polling numbers are holding up.

I don't think that UKIP will be able to take another election where they get 12-13% and don't get more than 1 MP.
Well at this point UKIP might not make it to a general election as one party at the rate that they are going.
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« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2016, 05:33:51 AM »

In an interview today with Andrew Marr on his Sunday show, Theresa May announced the date of the next general election, May 7th 2020, by stating that she would not call a general election in the wake of her election as Conservative Party leader.
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