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Santander
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« on: June 24, 2016, 08:52:16 PM »

What exactly is sexist about Trump's campaign? Yes, he insults women, but look at how he treated Low Energy Jeb, Lyin' Ted, Little Marco, John "1 for 42" Kasich, Lindsey Graham and John McCain, all white men. Trump is a lot of things, but he treats women equally - both in good ways and bad.
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Santander
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2016, 09:07:07 PM »

What exactly is sexist about Drumpf's campaign? Yes, he insults women, but look at how he treated Low Energy Jeb, Lyin' Ted, Little Marco, John "1 for 42" Kasich, Lindsey Graham and John McCain, all white men. Drumpf is a lot of things, but he treats women equally - both in good ways and bad.

He didn't make fun of any of those men's appearances like he did Carly Fiorina, Rosie O'Donnell, Angelina Jolie, etc.
https://youtu.be/0V1LcpsNDfg?t=1m49s

He doesn't attack men on their appearance because he thinks that most men are not vulnerable to those types of attacks. He knows where it hurts and he hits them hard.
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Santander
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2016, 03:00:44 AM »

Trump said that women should face criminal punishment for having abortions (but of course the men who got them pregnant should not). Then he had to walk it back after a firestorm of controversy.
First of all, he didn't say there should be criminal punishment, just some form of punishment. But second, how exactly are are men responsible unless it was a pregnancy caused by rape (which is a crime, and for which most pro-life people exempt from abortion laws) or if they pressured the woman into having an abortion? If you argue that it is solely a woman's right to choose, how can men be even partly responsible for something for a matter they have no say on?

As far as the woman card goes, Clinton plays it daily.
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Santander
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2016, 04:02:31 AM »

We are taking as abortion as an illegal offense.  LOL, what kind of punishment do you think Trump was taking about?  Put women in the stocks?  Do you agree with Trump that women should face punishment?  What would that be exactly? 
Illegal is not the same thing as criminal. Illegal immigration can be a rather serious offense, depending on the circumstances, but illegal immigration itself is not a crime. Additionally, pre-Roe v. Wade, state abortion laws held abortionists responsible, not the women. The main purpose of abortion laws is to reduce the number of abortions, and punishments are a means to an end. Should we punish women, who will have no more than one or two abortions in their lives, or abortionists, who make it their living to perform abortions? Punishing women serves only to publicly condemn them, and I think that condemnation and forgiveness are a matter solely between the woman and her creator, not government.

As for Trump's disapproval ratings with women, there are many reasons for that. A major part of it is Trump's rhetoric, but I wouldn't say he is running a sexist campaign. I admit he's running a white male identity politics campaign, which I'm not entirely comfortable with, but Democrats run identity politics campaigns all the time, and nobody says that they run racist campaigns. Single women are not a GOP constituency anyway, so there is a low ceiling for GOP candidates for women. Also, women just think and make decisions differently than men, and Trump's messaging towards women has been deficient so far.
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