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« Reply #75 on: July 10, 2016, 04:12:45 AM »

This thread and the gradual tide turning in it is a classic example of the failure of the "I don't agree with all his views but nice guy, FF Smiley" way of thinking that's way too prevalent here.

It's simple: this logic is a valid one to a certain extent (surely even YOU don't believe we should have positive opinions only of people who agree with us on everything, do you??) but breaks down after some points. Everyone has their non-negotiable values.
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« Reply #76 on: July 10, 2016, 07:51:33 AM »

He tried defending Kim Davis in one thread = HP.
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« Reply #77 on: July 10, 2016, 07:55:26 AM »

This thread and the gradual tide turning in it is a classic example of the failure of the "I don't agree with all his views but nice guy, FF Smiley" way of thinking that's way too prevalent here.

It's simple: this logic is a valid one to a certain extent (surely even YOU don't believe we should have positive opinions only of people who agree with us on everything, do you??) but breaks down after some points. Everyone has their non-negotiable values.

Seeing as how I've seen people say things like that over someone who is a North Korea apologist and was openly calling for gulags for and massacres and purges of "class enemies" I'd say some people here really don't know where to draw the line.
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« Reply #78 on: July 10, 2016, 09:53:30 AM »

This thread and the gradual tide turning in it is a classic example of the failure of the "I don't agree with all his views but nice guy, FF Smiley" way of thinking that's way too prevalent here.

It's simple: this logic is a valid one to a certain extent (surely even YOU don't believe we should have positive opinions only of people who agree with us on everything, do you??) but breaks down after some points. Everyone has their non-negotiable values.

Seeing as how I've seen people say things like that over someone who is a North Korea apologist and was openly calling for gulags for and massacres and purges of "class enemies" I'd say some people here really don't know where to draw the line.

If you're talking about TNF, I made it clear long ago that I didn't want anything to do with this lunatic.
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« Reply #79 on: July 10, 2016, 12:17:36 PM »

This thread and the gradual tide turning in it is a classic example of the failure of the "I don't agree with all his views but nice guy, FF Smiley" way of thinking that's way too prevalent here.

It's simple: this logic is a valid one to a certain extent (surely even YOU don't believe we should have positive opinions only of people who agree with us on everything, do you??) but breaks down after some points. Everyone has their non-negotiable values.

Seeing as how I've seen people say things like that over someone who is a North Korea apologist and was openly calling for gulags for and massacres and purges of "class enemies" I'd say some people here really don't know where to draw the line.

If you're talking about TNF, I made it clear long ago that I didn't want anything to do with this lunatic.

You maybe. But...

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=209095.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=199105.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=191715.0

Oh and actually from one of those threads:

Ideological differences aside, I find his attitude extremely irritating at times. Still, he's a principled and articulate poster who often provides an interesting perspective and puts effort into a lot of his posts. Obvious FF.
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« Reply #80 on: July 10, 2016, 12:28:17 PM »
« Edited: July 10, 2016, 12:34:55 PM by I did not see L.A. »

This thread and the gradual tide turning in it is a classic example of the failure of the "I don't agree with all his views but nice guy, FF Smiley" way of thinking that's way too prevalent here.

It's simple: this logic is a valid one to a certain extent (surely even YOU don't believe we should have positive opinions only of people who agree with us on everything, do you??) but breaks down after some points. Everyone has their non-negotiable values.

Seeing as how I've seen people say things like that over someone who is a North Korea apologist and was openly calling for gulags for and massacres and purges of "class enemies" I'd say some people here really don't know where to draw the line.

If you're talking about TNF, I made it clear long ago that I didn't want anything to do with this lunatic.

You maybe. But...

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=209095.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=199105.0
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=191715.0

Oh and actually from one of those threads:

Ideological differences aside, I find his attitude extremely irritating at times. Still, he's a principled and articulate poster who often provides an interesting perspective and puts effort into a lot of his posts. Obvious FF.

That was before he went off the deep end. He was a fairly decent poster until a year or so ago.

Edit: Actually, if you go to the last page of that very thread, you'll find the first exchange where I realized how hackish he was and called him out on it. Still, at that point he wasn't a North Korea apologist yet.
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« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2016, 10:20:23 AM »

Huge FF. Amazing individual although we may disagree on certain policy issues.
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« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2016, 09:04:13 AM »

Here's what this nice guy, FF Smiley said about Seriously?


And you guys wonder why AAD mocks you.
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« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2016, 09:07:16 AM »

Here's what this nice guy, FF Smiley said about Seriously?


And you guys wonder why AAD mocks you.

Does AAD think we care?
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« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2016, 09:08:13 AM »

Here's what this nice guy, FF Smiley said about Seriously?


And you guys wonder why AAD mocks you.

He wasn't this terrible/edgy/Trumpy a month ago, to be fair.

He's also a much nicer person if you get rid of politics.
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« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2016, 09:32:25 AM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.
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« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2016, 12:06:16 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.
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« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2016, 12:14:23 PM »

The exact kind of person I want out of my party. HP.

Politics aside, however, he's not that bad.
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« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2016, 12:30:51 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?
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« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2016, 12:32:43 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.
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« Reply #90 on: August 24, 2016, 12:35:01 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
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« Reply #91 on: August 24, 2016, 12:55:57 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
And were explaining why we don't give a sh**t what AAD thinks.
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« Reply #92 on: August 24, 2016, 01:09:29 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
And were explaining why we don't give a sh**t what AAD thinks.
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« Reply #93 on: August 24, 2016, 02:51:48 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
And were explaining why we don't give a sh**t what AAD thinks.

This. I'm sure Breitbart commenters would hate this place too.
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« Reply #94 on: August 24, 2016, 03:01:44 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
And were explaining why we don't give a sh**t what AAD thinks.
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« Reply #95 on: August 24, 2016, 03:16:05 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
And were explaining why we don't give a sh**t what AAD thinks.
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« Reply #96 on: August 24, 2016, 03:17:40 PM »

That's not a very good argument, since being mocked by AAD is a badge of honor to me.

So you disagree with AAD that thinking "Nice guy, FF Smiley " for any person with disgusting views who isn't blatantly confrontational usually is mock worthy?

No, I'm just saying bringing up AAD isn't a good argument.

I'm just explaining why AAD hates this type of nonsense.
And were explaining why we don't give a sh**t what AAD thinks.
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« Reply #97 on: August 24, 2016, 03:49:50 PM »

Actually nowhere in this thread or that long empty quote chain did you explain WHY.

(Also funny that Classic Bigot joined in since he did register on AAD but was laughed off.)
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« Reply #98 on: August 24, 2016, 03:56:15 PM »

Actually nowhere in this thread or that long empty quote chain did you explain WHY.

(Also funny that Classic Bigot joined in since he did register on AAD but was laughed off.)

The problems with AAD, some of which are related and some of which aren't, I have found to be these (and don't say I don't understand, I'm decently active over there):

1) Hive-mind thinking: people like Classic are "laughed off" just because of their views - which, bad or good, still deserve to be heard

2) Brutal ageism: again - people like dar, Classic, and myself are ignored or disliked because of only their age, regardless of how much they contribute.

3) Bandwagon liking/disliking: depending on the poster, one person might get 14 likes for a post that another person would have 0 likes or even dislikes on

4) Lack of a What-Ifs board: best part of this forum IMO

5) They steal our maps
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« Reply #99 on: August 24, 2016, 04:13:49 PM »

Actually nowhere in this thread or that long empty quote chain did you explain WHY.

(Also funny that Classic Bigot joined in since he did register on AAD but was laughed off.)

The problems with AAD, some of which are related and some of which aren't, I have found to be these (and don't say I don't understand, I'm decently active over there):

1) Hive-mind thinking: people like Classic are "laughed off" just because of their views - which, bad or good, still deserve to be heard

2) Brutal ageism: again - people like dar, Classic, and myself are ignored or disliked because of only their age, regardless of how much they contribute.

3) Bandwagon liking/disliking: depending on the poster, one person might get 14 likes for a post that another person would have 0 likes or even dislikes on

4) Lack of a What-Ifs board: best part of this forum IMO

5) They steal our maps

6) There's a whole board for BRTD sh1tposting.
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