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Landslide Lyndon
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« on: June 26, 2016, 08:05:03 AM »



http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-opens-12-point-lead-trump-thirds-biased/story?id=40114224&cid=tw_tco
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2016, 08:06:23 AM »

Finally, a poll with a reasonable number of undecideds.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2016, 08:06:56 AM »



One third of Republicans think Trump is unqualified.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2016, 08:10:28 AM »

Her biggest lead ever in this poll. Beautiful!
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2016, 08:11:17 AM »

Beautiful poll (and with Clinton over 50)
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2016, 08:17:37 AM »
« Edited: June 26, 2016, 08:24:50 AM by Libertarian Socialist »

77% of Sanders supporters support Clinton over Trump. Only 69% of non-Trump primary supporters support him over Clinton.

Edit: Also, 90% of Democrats support Clinton, only 77% of Republicans support Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2016, 08:18:39 AM »

4-way matchup:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/06/26/National-Politics/Polling/question_16490.xml?uuid=nqN9tjudEeaeFkzwGkHeyw

Clinton 47%
Trump 37%
Johnson 7%
Stein 3%
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2016, 08:41:24 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2016, 09:10:11 AM »

Well, everybody knows that the WaPo's opinion of TRUMP isn't that high.
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2016, 09:36:15 AM »

Nope.

She's not up by more than 5 nationally.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2016, 09:39:29 AM »

If we want to bring track records into this, then ABC/WaPo and Pew were the 2 pollsters in 2012 that had final polls closest to the actual PV results (they both had Obama 50% - Romey 47%), so IMO they should be taken very seriously.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2016, 09:44:59 AM »

Nope.

She's not up by more than 5 nationally.

No. You're underestimating the Blaxicasians the same way Sanders did. Election is Safe D.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2016, 09:47:10 AM »

Nope.

She's not up by more than 5 nationally.

Trump is a train wreck, so she is definitely up 12. This isn't the first poll to show a margin similar to this.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2016, 09:47:57 AM »

Nope.

She's not up by more than 5 nationally.

No. You're underestimating the Blaxicasians the same way Sanders did. Election is Safe D.

There are certainly enough Blaxicasians out there to lift her to a 5-point win, but not a 12-point win.

A 12-point win would only be possible if Hillary were actually popular with people (=> she's not).
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2016, 09:50:45 AM »

I think what's more interesting is that we have pollsters showing the race around a 6 point margin, and the others showing it around a 12 point margin. There's some disagreement there. Maybe it's their sampling and methodology. I do find it interesting that this pollster was showing a Trump lead during his primary bounce when no one else was (well, except for Ras and Fox) and now they're showing a bigger Clinton lead than most.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2016, 09:52:17 AM »

Nope.

She's not up by more than 5 nationally.

No. You're underestimating the Blaxicasians the same way Sanders did. Election is Safe D.

There are certainly enough Blaxicasians out there to lift her to a 5-point win, but not a 12-point win.

A 12-point win would only be possible if Hillary were actually popular with people (=> she's not).

The primaries are over. You can drop the anti-Hillary charade.

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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2016, 09:53:10 AM »

Nope.

She's not up by more than 5 nationally.

No. You're underestimating the Blaxicasians the same way Sanders did. Election is Safe D.

There are certainly enough Blaxicasians out there to lift her to a 5-point win, but not a 12-point win.

A 12-point win would only be possible if Hillary were actually popular with people (=> she's not).

At least we won't come 30k votes close to electing a fascist for President (=> like Austria).
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2016, 09:55:33 AM »

The primaries are over. You can drop the anti-Hillary charade.

I'm not anti-Hillary here, I'm just posting facts. (I'd also vote for her, for example if I'd live in CO).

At least we won't come 30k votes close to electing a fascist for President (=> like Austria).

Who knows ... don't count the chickens before they hatch.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2016, 09:57:18 AM »

The primaries are over. You can drop the anti-Hillary charade.

I'm not anti-Hillary here, I'm just posting facts. (I'd also vote for her, for example if I'd live in CO).

No you don't. Polling averages show her ahead by 7, so I don't really know where you get your 5 point "prediction" other than your gut.
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2016, 09:59:30 AM »

The primaries are over. You can drop the anti-Hillary charade.

I'm not anti-Hillary here, I'm just posting facts. (I'd also vote for her, for example if I'd live in CO).

No you don't. Polling averages show her ahead by 7, so I don't really know where you get your 5 point "prediction" other than your gut.

Exactly: RCP has her ahead by 5-6% nationally, which makes sense considering the state polls.

But not a 12-point lead ...
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2016, 10:21:59 AM »

Clinton is up double digits with college educated white women in this poll which gives her a 13% average among the overall college educated white vote. That certainly would result in a blowout.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2016, 10:24:29 AM »

This poll is likely an outlier:

It has Obama's approval at 56%, but it's at 51% on the RCP average.
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2016, 10:36:42 AM »

FWIW,

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls
Based on everything we're doing publicly and privately believe NBC/WSJ a lot more than ABC/WP
9:21 AM - 26 Jun 2016
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2016, 10:38:39 AM »

FWIW,

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls
Based on everything we're doing publicly and privately believe NBC/WSJ a lot more than ABC/WP
9:21 AM - 26 Jun 2016

Yepp. There's no credible explanation why Hillary would be up by 12 when she's so unpopular ...
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2016, 10:40:36 AM »

FWIW,

PublicPolicyPolling @ppppolls
Based on everything we're doing publicly and privately believe NBC/WSJ a lot more than ABC/WP
9:21 AM - 26 Jun 2016

Yepp. There's no credible explanation why Hillary would be up by 12 when she's so unpopular ...

Because her opponent is a racist buffoon?
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