With Trump, the GOP Is Heading Toward Oblivion

[Torie]

Yes, I know, Jay Cost perhaps dislikes Trump almost as much as I do. And no, the GOP is not headed toward "oblivion," just to a very, very bad place. More accurate I think, is that the GOP deserves to go into oblivion (even if alas it will not), for doing this horrible thing to the nation, making its already far too toxic public square, even more toxic.

Anyway, enough about me, but I do need to vent from time to time. I am but human - believe it or not.

[ElectionsGuy]

Or its just heading towards populist nationalism and away from traditional conservatism. There's plenty of support for that. This is just more concern trolling.

[Seriously?]

The 99th post on Atlas skewing Trump claiming the sky is falling.  Of course most legitimate posts skewering lying, crooked Hillary! get pulled by the  mods.

Even as the polls show a trend towards Trump this week.

IT'S LATE JUNE folks. There are ebbs and flows in every cycle.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

The 99th post on Atlas skewing Trump claiming the sky is falling.  Of course most legitimate posts skewering lying, crooked Hillary! get pulled by the  mods.

Even as the polls show a trend towards Trump this week.

IT'S LATE JUNE folks. There are ebbs and flows in every cycle.

True. We have no real idea of just how large Trump's loss in November will be.

[Torie]

The 99th post on Atlas skewing Trump claiming the sky is falling.  Of course most legitimate posts skewering lying, crooked Hillary! get pulled by the  mods.

Even as the polls show a trend towards Trump this week.

IT'S LATE JUNE folks. There are ebbs and flows in every cycle.

LOL.  You don't really believe that do you? I laughed because of the absurdity of the charge. Geez.

[RINO Tom]

Or its just heading towards populist nationalism and away from traditional conservatism. There's plenty of support for that. This is just more concern trolling.

For now.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

The GOP will reform around opposition to the Bernie agenda.

Roughly 25% of the Trumpists will become Democrats, which will take some of the populist, anti-establishment pressure off of the GOP.  Some of the current Democrats (maybe not those in national office, but on the local level, and in voting habits) will become Republicans, because they won't be comfortable with the populist, leftist direction of that party.

Paul Ryan will be the face of the party, and is the odds-on favorite for the 2020 presidential nomination, assuming he wants it, which is iffy at best.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

There will always be opposition to the democrats. I for one do not wish to see a one party state for national elections, and we're already trending that way.

I have to believe that the GOP will right the ship at some point. Both parties have dominated for so long that structurally I still can't see a third party spring up.

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

There will always be opposition to the democrats. I for one do not wish to see a one party state for national elections, and we're already trending that way.

I have to believe that the GOP will right the ship at some point. Both parties have dominated for so long that structurally I still can't see a third party spring up.

There will never be a third party because there is no strategic advantage in our political system to joining one.

In a Westminster system, where a majority is necessary to form a government, a minor party can hold a lot of power.  They usually revolve around a minor issue, and demand that issue be addressed if no party has a majority.

In our system of divided government, there is no "majority government."  There's a party that controls each independent body.  Sometimes they align, but usually they don't.  You join a minor party, and more than likely, you just end up out in the cold.  So you can either line up with the majority, or you can line up with the opposition.  Binary choice.

If Democrats get really powerful, everyone who opposes them will congregate.  That will be the GOP.  Majority and opposition.  That's all there's room for.

[RINO Tom]

The GOP will reform around opposition to the Bernie agenda.

Roughly 25% of the Trumpists will become Democrats, which will take some of the populist, anti-establishment pressure off of the GOP.  Some of the current Democrats (maybe not those in national office, but on the local level, and in voting habits) will become Republicans, because they won't be comfortable with the populist, leftist direction of that party.

Paul Ryan will be the face of the party, and is the odds-on favorite for the 2020 presidential nomination, assuming he wants it, which is iffy at best.

Yep, I can't believe other people don't see it this way.  The Democrats are powerful nationally right now, and if the GOP keeps these shenanigans up, that power will trickle down.  When parties have more power, they try to get more passed; a powerful, electorally comfortable Democratic Party will enact more and more progressive legislation, and the GOP will eventually be able to pretty much run the campaign Romney tried to in 2012 except not be hyperbolic about it.