UKIP and Green Party (of England and Wales) leadership elections, 2016

[Phony Moderate]

Caroline Lucas and Jonathan Bartley win the Green leadership with 86% of the vote.

[joevsimp]

full results for Leaders and deputy

Due to a technical issue, this dosn't include votes for Re-open Nominations, based on the difference between 86% and the 87.74% given by this table, it must've been between 200 and 400 (one of whom was me), coming fourth overall

Lucas/Bartley  13,570  87.74%
David Malone       956    6.18%
David Williams     527    3.41%
Clive Lord            173    1.12%
Martie Warin        133    0.86%
Simon Cross        108    0.70%


Deputy Leadership first preferences

Amelia Womack  4742  41.82%
Andrew Cooper   1778  15.68%
Shahrar Ali         1716  15.13%
Kat Boettge        1510  13.32%
Daniella Radice     924    8.15%
Stőrm Poorun       445    3.92%
Alan Borgars        179     1.58%
RON                      44     0.39%

transfers (Quota=5307)

Womack   4742  4882  5231  6061
Cooper     1778  1859  1979  2308
Ali           1716  1820  1948  2244
Boettge    1510  1623  1845
Radice       924    983
Poorun       445
Borgars      179
RON/NT        44   171   335   725

[Phony Moderate]

The UKIP leadership election result was declared yesterday btw, and Diane James won with 46.1% of the vote. Turnout was quite poor.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

The UKIP leadership election result was declared yesterday btw, and Diane James won with 46.1% of the vote. Turnout was quite poor.

Party membership is dropping rapidly, isn't it? A single issue party can't survive without it's single issue. I'd advice Diane James to begin rebranding UKIP as a libertarianish-right populist party.

[DavidB.]

I'd advice Diane James to begin rebranding UKIP as a libertarianish-right populist party.

No. The UK is not America. There's a reason almost all Western European radical right-wing parties (except for the ones in wealthy Norway and Switzerland) have dropped the "all right-wing, all the time" brand and adjusted their economic policies to attract large groups of voters wholly uninterested in right-wing or libertarian economic politics, while not completely alienating the ones who are. This would be useful in the UK in particular. If UKIP wants to be (remain? doubtful if they ever were) successful, it needs to focus on multiculturalism issues and adopt economic "policies" similar to their Western European counterparts, which is to say a populist, "centrist", heterogeneous economic agenda. There is nothing to win in "out-right-winging" the Conservatives on the economy. Voters interested in something like that are generally not going to vote for UKIP anyway.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Yeah there is literally no market for that type of politics here whatsoever. What always needs to be remembered about UKIP, of course, is that they're basically a pensioners party.

[adma]

Besides, notwithstanding Aleppogate, the present presidential "Johnson\Weld Libertarians" seem to be positioning themselves as more of a US version of the middle-straddling Lib Dems than anything UKIP-like...

[Phony Moderate]

Besides, notwithstanding Aleppogate, the present presidential "Johnson\Weld Libertarians" seem to be positioning themselves as more of a US version of the middle-straddling Lib Dems than anything UKIP-like...

Both people on the Libertarian ticket this year would get along very well with David Laws I imagine.

[Zinneke]

I was always under the impression there was more of a culture of libertarianism (which europeans call classical liberalism) in Britain more than most European countries.

This is a country that voted for Thatcher three times, a figure that UKIP adopted in No True Scotsman like manner. I know there is a great deal of mythology about Thatcher reducing state expenditure (when she did so only sparingly), but her support in places like Essex stemmed from the core classical liberal message, that coincidently happens to be UKIP's strongest performing area, and where their only MP, a libertarian, was elected. Perhaps based on his name, yes, but elected nonetheless.

[Phony Moderate]

This is a country that voted for Thatcher three times, a figure that UKIP adopted in No True Scotsman like manner. I know there is a great deal of mythology about Thatcher reducing state expenditure (when she did so only sparingly), but her support in places like Essex stemmed from the core classical liberal message, that coincidently happens to be UKIP's strongest performing area, and where their only MP, a libertarian, was elected. Perhaps based on his name, yes, but elected nonetheless.

Thing is that UKIP are arguably less 'libertarian' on economics (let alone other matters) than the Tories nowadays. And I doubt that even 10% of UKIP's voters vote for them for their economic policies anyway...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This is a country that voted for Thatcher three times, a figure that UKIP adopted in No True Scotsman like manner. I know there is a great deal of mythology about Thatcher reducing state expenditure (when she did so only sparingly), but her support in places like Essex stemmed from the core classical liberal message, that coincidently happens to be UKIP's strongest performing area, and where their only MP, a libertarian, was elected. Perhaps based on his name, yes, but elected nonetheless.

What you need to understand is that how Thatcherism was sold to the electorate and how it has been marketed abroad subsequently were/are not the same thing. The message sold abroad you know, of course. But back home it was basically: we, the government, are going to make you richer. And we're going to do that by cutting the state where it works as a block on your income but protecting it where it safeguards your income. And we're going to give you lots and lots of freebies. We're on your side, see? How's this going to be paid for? Firstly, the oil windfall which is literally free money, isn't that great? Secondly, by slashing back on services that are mostly used by Labour voters, but don't worry about them they're just trash anyway.

[MaxQue]

The UKIP leadership election result was declared yesterday btw, and Diane James won with 46.1% of the vote. Turnout was quite poor.

Diane James resigned, it seems.

[Peter]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/04/ukip-leader-diane-james-resigns-after-just-18-days-in-job-reports

Indeed, I don't think you could make this up. 

[Hnv1]

So is it faragist basically telling her to sod off?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

lmao

[Phony Moderate]

Hopefully they view this as a time to bring back Alan Sked.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

When I said libertarian, I was meaning Libertarian (as in party), not libertarian. Something along the lines of Bill Weld. What I picture is a party that has the temperance of the Liberal Democrats (before they became irrelevant), more or less the same basic economic policies they have now but with with more emphasis on protecting workers, a more neutral policy when it comes to labor disputes, and so forth. You don't become some sort of corporatist just because you don't embrace literal anarcho-capitalism. 

[Phony Moderate]

And it gets weirder: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37572377

[IceAgeComing]

Hope it's not too serious, sometimes things like that can happen after heated exchanges.  UKIP can't catch a break at the minute.

[Phony Moderate]

He has bleeding on his brain apparently, which would explain why he collapsed.

[IceAgeComing]

Christ, one of the other UKIP MEPs might have a good right hook

[Phony Moderate]

Christ, one of the other UKIP MEPs might have a good right hook

Reports suggest that the person responsible is Mike Hookem MEP. No, I'm not even joking.

[IceAgeComing]

Ahahaha I probably shouldn't be laughing but that is just funny.

[Hnv1]

Christ, one of the other UKIP MEPs might have a good right hook

Reports suggest that the person responsible is Mike Hookem MEP. No, I'm not even joking.

That's him
Likes: Hull City, Young's Bitter, and his mums cooking.
Dislikes: Islam and Paedophiles

looks like an old nutter the Port Vale firm took on tour

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This has been a strange year.