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« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2016, 12:09:58 PM »

The two named in the article—one from California; the other from Ohio—endorsed Hillary before well before the primaries.

*S* them.


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« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2016, 12:13:28 PM »

Good. Socialism should be shot down at all times.

Yeah, like that time Bernie got rural health clinics inserted into the ACA.

Because no one should want people in Appalachia getting dental care, apparently.

I don't know if he had declared himself a socialist in 2009 or not. But he has now, and he should be shamed into resigning from Congress over his fundamentally anti-american ideology that is just one step away from communism.

You obviously have a very little idea what the socialism actually is.

Your grammar is terrible.

Anyone who calls themselves a socialist is a socialist and is dangerous to america.
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« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2016, 12:20:54 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2016, 12:27:08 PM by Beet »

Who cares? Just leave the guy alone. He's not the enemy.

Anyway, given the approval ratings of Congress, getting booed by a bunch of politicians is a badge of honor. These people should have some more dignity.
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« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2016, 12:47:25 PM »

Do you speak Polish, Wulfric? My guess is that Kalwejt has a better grasp on English grammar that you do on Polish grammar.

Anyone who calls themselves a socialist is a socialist and is dangerous to america.
Um, no, that's not how it works. A "socialist" is someone who supports the program of economic and social policies collectively defined as "socialism," the defining characteristic of this program being the collective ownership of the means of production. Simply declaring yourself a socialist does not a Marxist make, anymore than declaring myself a cat makes me a member of the feline community.
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« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2016, 12:57:08 PM »

Do you speak Polish, Wulfric? My guess is that Kalwejt has a better grasp on English grammar that you do on Polish grammar.

Anyone who calls themselves a socialist is a socialist and is dangerous to america.
Um, no, that's not how it works. A "socialist" is someone who supports the program of economic and social policies collectively defined as "socialism," the defining characteristic of this program being the collective ownership of the means of production. Simply declaring yourself a socialist does not a Marxist make, anymore than declaring myself a cat makes me a member of the feline community.

"Socialism" is a very wide term anyway. Sanders certainly represents a mainstream social democracy, which I fail to see as "dangerous". Many of the contemporary Democratic politicians, including Hillary, would be considered more or less social democratic in Europe.
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« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2016, 01:06:02 PM »


Anyone who calls themselves a socialist is a socialist and is dangerous to america.

Thanks for the input, Joseph McCarthy.
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« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2016, 01:11:13 PM »

Good. Socialism should be shot down at all times.

Yeah, like that time Bernie got rural health clinics inserted into the ACA.

Because no one should want people in Appalachia getting dental care, apparently.

I don't know if he had declared himself a socialist in 2009 or not. But he has now, and he should be shamed into resigning from Congress over his fundamentally anti-american ideology that is just one step away from communism.

#sheltered
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« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2016, 01:33:54 PM »

Who cares? Just leave the guy alone. He's not the enemy.

Anyway, given the approval ratings of Congress, getting booed by a bunch of politicians is a badge of honor. These people should have some more dignity.
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« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2016, 01:38:05 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?
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« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2016, 01:41:49 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

Dude, you're talking about people who believe everything said by HA Goodman.
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« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2016, 01:56:17 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

It might have something to do with responding to questions about why she accepted a ton of money to speak at Goldman with "That's what they offered."  I actually don't have much problem with Hillary giving those speeches, but it's exactly what you'd expect an opportunistic capitalist to say to the question.  It also begs the question of where does she draw the line.
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« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2016, 02:00:29 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

That's funny. Bernie is part of the system...he works in it. He gets his paycheck from it. He may be trying to change certain aspects of it, but he nevertheless is part of it. He's been doing the Dem party a service by fighting for change, but there comes a time to stop "saying" that we need to defeat Trump and actually do something about it.

As to your second sentence....they are young and idealistic. And often times unrealistic.
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« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2016, 02:10:41 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

It might have something to do with responding to questions about why she accepted a ton of money to speak at Goldman with "That's what they offered."  I actually don't have much problem with Hillary giving those speeches, but it's exactly what you'd expect an opportunistic capitalist to say to the question.  It also begs the question of where does she draw the line.

I think that since Hillary has been on the political scene for a long time, since she is married to a man who was a two-term President, since she was in the Senate for almost 8 years, and since she was Sec of State, and since she has traveled the world as First Lady spreading good will, and since she has written several books, she is a highly sought after speaker. People want to hear what she has to say. To offer her large sums of money is fitting for someone of her experience and knowledge and social stature.

Calling someone like that an "opportunistic capitalist" is very short-sighted and small-minded in my view. It basically cuts off all that wealth of experience and knowledge that she brings to any table, and reduces it down to nothing but a one-dimensional dollar figure.

One of my friends keeps saying that you are worth what other people will pay for your services. Is that a bad thing?
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« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2016, 02:24:34 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

It might have something to do with responding to questions about why she accepted a ton of money to speak at Goldman with "That's what they offered."  I actually don't have much problem with Hillary giving those speeches, but it's exactly what you'd expect an opportunistic capitalist to say to the question.  It also begs the question of where does she draw the line.

I think that since Hillary has been on the political scene for a long time, since she is married to a man who was a two-term President, since she was in the Senate for almost 8 years, and since she was Sec of State, and since she has traveled the world as First Lady spreading good will, and since she has written several books, she is a highly sought after speaker. People want to hear what she has to say. To offer her large sums of money is fitting for someone of her experience and knowledge and social stature.

Calling someone like that an "opportunistic capitalist" is very short-sighted and small-minded in my view. It basically cuts off all that wealth of experience and knowledge that she brings to any table, and reduces it down to nothing but a one-dimensional dollar figure.

One of my friends keeps saying that you are worth what other people will pay for your services. Is that a bad thing?

It's just that it makes her sound totally oblivious to the implications.  Yes, she has a wealth of experience that makes her sought after.  If someone wants to pay her a ton of money to give a speech, that's their issue.  If she wasn't planning to run for office again, that would be one thing, but it's been pretty obvious all along that she would.  Whenever economic issues come up during her presidency, she'll remember that she got that $675,000.  Maybe it won't effect her judgment in the slightest, but I would certainly feel better if she didn't do it.  It makes her sound like she can be bought.
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« Reply #39 on: July 06, 2016, 02:27:26 PM »

It was going to happen some time. The Dems have been very patient and accommodating with Sanders and he has not equivocated. Eventually they would get frustrated. They largely agree on the issues, but Sanders being an a--hole is the reason he got booed
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« Reply #40 on: July 06, 2016, 02:49:51 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

That's generalizing both candidates based on one issue.
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« Reply #41 on: July 06, 2016, 02:52:30 PM »

He should be proud. House Democrats are awful along with their Republican counterparts.
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« Reply #42 on: July 06, 2016, 02:52:59 PM »

Just wait until Sanders starts to work on Hillary's campaign behalf. Then whinning of both Bernie Bros and Hillarybots would look hillarious in hindsight.
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« Reply #43 on: July 06, 2016, 02:54:40 PM »

It's just that it makes her sound totally oblivious to the implications.  Yes, she has a wealth of experience that makes her sought after.  If someone wants to pay her a ton of money to give a speech, that's their issue.  If she wasn't planning to run for office again, that would be one thing, but it's been pretty obvious all along that she would.  Whenever economic issues come up during her presidency, she'll remember that she got that $675,000.  Maybe it won't effect her judgment in the slightest, but I would certainly feel better if she didn't do it.  It makes her sound like she can be bought.

I hear what you're saying and if I was young again I would probably feel the same way. But I've been around for almost as long as Hillary has, and I realize that Hillary cannot live her life according to how others think she should. That's no life at all. And considering how long she's been on the political scene, and how many people know about her and have watched her through the years and have commented on her life, she would never do anything for herself if she listened to everyone.

It's much easier to point fingers at Hillary and say she can be bought, or say she is corrupt, or say she's a liar than to get the facts. At this point, she has to live her life her way and if she can't please everyone, then "oh well...."

She can't win them all.
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« Reply #44 on: July 06, 2016, 02:55:14 PM »

Dude, you're talking about people who believe everything said by HA Goodman.

Dude, even BernieBros despise H.A. Goodman.
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« Reply #45 on: July 06, 2016, 03:17:28 PM »

My Bernie supporting friends on Facebook are using this as evidence that he's just so outside of the "system," man.

Can someone enlighten me as to how being a Senator who supports a $15 minimum wage puts one outside of the system, but being a former Senator who supports a $12 minimum wage makes one reek of the capitalist bourgeois illuminati lizard people?

That's generalizing both candidates based on one issue.

I agree, it's just one of the few issues they actually disagree on that comes down to a specific number.
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« Reply #46 on: July 06, 2016, 04:05:17 PM »

kind of hilarious that this sore loser continues to squander whatever clout and influence he had built up over the campaign season due to his own arrogance and delusion

he could be one of the most powerful and influential Democrats right now, a real leader in the party, but he's far too big headed for that

It was going to happen some time. The Dems have been very patient and accommodating with Sanders and he has not equivocated. Eventually they would get frustrated. They largely agree on the issues, but Sanders being an a--hole is the reason he got booed

Yeah, they're starting to lose tolerance for his charade, which was inevitable. He really has not handled the exit process well. Apparently he's been rubbing his fellow Senators the wrong way too by peacocking around the chamber with his Secret Service entourage which has been unneeded for months now. It appears he really did let the hype get to his head, which is sad because he used to be one of my favorite Senators.
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« Reply #47 on: July 06, 2016, 04:06:11 PM »

Dude, you're talking about people who believe everything said by HA Goodman.

Dude, even BernieBros despise H.A. Goodman.

So who are the thousands of people who watch his videos and comment about how he's the best thing since sliced bread? Hillary supporters?
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« Reply #48 on: July 06, 2016, 04:11:34 PM »

Apparently he's been rubbing his fellow Senators the wrong way too by peacocking around the chamber with his Secret Service entourage which has been unneeded for months now. It appears he really did let the hype get to his head, which is sad because he used to be one of my favorite Senators.

I read an article the other day about how Democratic senators are already trying to block Sanders from becoming the chairman of any major committee, especially Health, Education & Labor.
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« Reply #49 on: July 06, 2016, 04:17:16 PM »

Good. Socialism should be shot down at all times.

Yeah, like that time Bernie got rural health clinics inserted into the ACA.

Because no one should want people in Appalachia getting dental care, apparently.

I don't know if he had declared himself a socialist in 2009 or not. But he has now, and he should be shamed into resigning from Congress over his fundamentally anti-american ideology that is just one step away from communism.

You obviously have a very little idea what the socialism actually is.

Your grammar is terrible.

Anyone who calls themselves a socialist is a socialist and is dangerous to america.
LOL. What is really un-American is calling for the resignation of democratically elected political figures just because you happen to disagree with them. Yes, I believe that socialism paves the road towards communism, but that does not mean that we should deny socialists a place in our political system.
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